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Oh and.. Here's the riff in the recorded version with the Chiron boosted IIC+. What do you think about the C+ tone compared to the Recto tone?

Thanks for making killer pedals!

@VESmedic listening to your bass clips in the Morin thread got me thinking. IMO the C+ does suck with tunings below about D standard, it just falls apart. It's in E and Eb where it's so hard to beat. Odd, but that's my experience. If a guy lives in a 7/8 string modern metal world then yeah, I...

Yeah it's interesting- in the room, the Schaffer is lower gain & has a MUCH thicker bottom end in comparison. Both have awesome tone, just in a different way. What I've been doing in the band is using the Chiron for anything heavy & chuggy where it is tighter, gainier & has better mids, and...

WHAT??

Differences seem more distinctive in the room, but still here. What do you think? In the mix first then guitars only at 0:42.

Wait a minute- talking about consistency, isn't your main argument about against that C+ is that it's not used on enough cool albums? So then, the 5150 is used on tons of cool albums, and it sucks too? I'm confused now. What exactly is your personal criteria for awesomeness?

True story, and that's because it's a Coliseum (a pair really) which is an entirely different animal. Once you experience one of these, if you go back to a 4 tube Mark II or III you'll start looking for where the tampon string is hiding.

If I was starting my album reamping from scratch, honestly I probably wouldn't use the IIC+ for rhythm guitar. It's too polite. I'd use the IIB+ or the IVb which are much more in your face, and save the C+ for leads. That ship has sailed though and we're already locked in, so it is what it is...

Neal Schon and Steve Lukather come to mind. I bet the C+ is on a ton of rock albums we're just not aware of.

I really preferred T75 cabs with the MKIIIs, the V30 cabs were more grating.. Interesting where the MkIV basically requires a V30 cab and the MKIIs love all cabs.

I do think the 5150 close mic records high gain very well and I understand why they are on so many records. However, I also think they are plastic live. ...Which is bass ackwards to have the cheap amp in the studio & the expensive amp on the road! All about the right tool for the job though..

Every try one through a traditional cab? While the OS cabs are definitely part of the "wall of sound", they do add a lot to the tubbiness.

The SLO30 belongs to a buddy, glad I didn't have to buy one to try it. :) Yeah, I'll try them out & see what makes sense. I'm hoping for the IIB+, since I haven't had the GOAT out on quite some time...

My Griffs are no noisier than any other boost. The buttons do pop, though not a big deal.

I'm planning on doing a reamp test of the Chiron vs. the Schaffer. Would you guys prefer to hear it on a Mark II, Mark IV or 2ch Recto?

Thanks man. I find it more rewarding to be a specialist than a generalist. Even though, "generalists get more views". I like to deep dive!

The thing about the "recto fizz" everyone complains about is, IMO, that's what make them work in the live band mix. Kind of like a good Marshall- in the bedroom they don't make anywhere near as much sense as they do cranked on stage. Listening to this demo I am hearing an eviscerated bottom...

Now imagine two of these killers racked up in stereo. :cool: :rock: