Truss Rod Adjustment Bolt SNAPPED!!!

SavageRiffer

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This is like the 21st guitar I've built, probably the 40th I've owned, and I've never seen anything like this happen before. I was putting some new strings on and SNAP! The neck instantly bowed. Then, the little truss rod adjustment bolt fell out. It snapped right in the middle of the threaded part. I literally had just finished drying my 7th and final coat of Tru-oil finish, fret leveling, crowning, polishing, setup, and attached the tuners on one of the most amazing flame maple/kingwood necks around. What a DAMNED shame! All of that work and I was so damned excited to put play that guitar. It was setup with such a low, smooth action. I literally had just finished tuning the brand new strings when it fucking snapped! I hope Warmoth honors the warranty.
 
13's, ceramic magnets and E STD whatta u expect?

That's a damn shame that strat was beautiful. Gotta setup all over again after the fix.
 
That sucks. Sounds like maybe the bolt was way to loose initially and could have been snugged up first but who would have thought to do that.
 
Starman22":2o3xml2x said:
13's, ceramic magnets and E STD whatta u expect?
That's a damn shame that strat was beautiful. Gotta setup all over again after the fix.

Yeah man. I mean I had actually just tuned it and picked it up to go play it when SNAP!

glip22":2o3xml2x said:
That sucks. Sounds like maybe the bolt was way to loose initially and could have been snugged up first but who would have thought to do that.

No, actually I had to tighten it to straighten it out for leveling, then loosen it to give it the right curvature to set it up. After I did all of that, I had to crown and polish the frets, set up the action and intonation, then I put new strings on it and tuned it. As soon as I picked it up to play, that's when it happened. I would have noticed if there was something off before. Like I said, I've built about 21 guitars already and never had such a thing happen.
 
Was is the side adjust bolt that broke? Hopefully Warmoth can refit the bolt for you, that was a beautifully flamed neck. :doh:

I have always used quartersawn necks with the traditional truss rod adjust at the end design, and I have not needed to tighten my truss rods a lot over the years as the neck don't really bow much after initial setup. I have always been told by my lutiher that a good maple neck should be strong enough to handle string tension with very little truss rod pressure to counteract the string tension and straighten the neck out. I have read that while aesthetically pleasing... birdseye and flame maple necks are inherently weaker because of the wood grain directions versus quartersawn which kinda makes some sense.

I hope you get it sorted out. :thumbsup:
 
Man FUCK WARMOTH!!!

17 ORDERS -> $9,200.00 spent in just 4 years -> the first time I ever call for warranty repair -> the Warmoth bastards send me a repair estimate of $110 (+ shipping to them).

I've built 20 Warmoth guitars and never once had a problem, but the first time something goes wrong, they don't want to support their products. That's pretty shitty customer service. They can shove that neck right up their asses.
 
If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?
 
If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.
 
Padre Bonic":2eflgjl8 said:
If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.
That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.
 
danyeo":k8xbfn7p said:
If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?

Come on man, that's a dick question. That's not the point either. The point is that I've never once called in for anything under warranty, but the first time I do, they don't want to support their product. That's the point. It's not $120 bucks either. You have to add $120 to the $250 I already spent on the neck. In the end, 1 faulty neck out of 20 SHOULD be covered under warranty. I only purchased it just a couple of weeks ago.

Padre Bonic":k8xbfn7p said:
If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

In that case, I have to fall back on my history with them. If I was the kind of person with a frivolous history, then that's perfectly understandable. However, if you have a consistent customer who has never ever called in a warranty claim, then they at least deserve to be heard out. It made no sense that after so many purchases in a four year span that I would suddenly call them up with something frivolous. It's common sense man. Warmoth FAILED to support their customers. I warn anyone buying Warmoth because they do not care about the customer one bit.

SpiderWars":k8xbfn7p said:
Padre Bonic":k8xbfn7p said:
If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.
That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.

Fortunately, I've been able to recover the guitar because I can still do all the adjustment from the heel. It just makes things a lot more complicated because you have to remove the neck, put on strings, remove the neck, put back on the strings, etc... before you finally get the tension right - with that gauge of strings. If you change string gauge, you have to repeat the process.

Normally, you make the big adjustments with the heel. The side adjust is only for finer adjustment. However, the side adjust saves you from having to remove the strings and neck to get it just right.

As far as I know, I can replace the adjustment nut, but there are two problems. The first would be that I have to find a drill bit long and skinny enough to pierce the broken threaded piece so I can remove it, or some other technique. Second, I can't find where to buy the nut or even the Gotoh side adjust mechanism anywhere. It's not even on Gotoh's website. It must be a Warmoth exclusive or something.

In any case, it's restored, but without the side adjust. It doesn't really matter because as long as I don't change the string gauge, I won't have to adjust the truss rod for years. I can simply insert a maple dowel where the nut goes and done. For now, I'll see if I can find a nut somewhere before I go with a permanent solution.

I was playing it last night by the way. Oh man, it's so luxurious. The action isn't as low as it needs to be because I leveled and dressed the frets before the bolt snapped. It immediately bowed the neck, so that kind of threw the leveling off. I have to go back and tap the frets with a fret hammer to make sure they didn't get loosened, then level and dress the frets again before I can get the action perfect like before. However, since I just put new strings on it, I'll just play it as-is for now.
 
What not ask for an RMA if there is doubt? Once inspected they may agree that it is intact covered. Any modifications or repair attempt may in fact void the warranty
 
Padre Bonic":15psx4ya said:
If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

SavageRiffer":15psx4ya said:
That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

In that case, I have to fall back on my history with them. If I was the kind of person with a frivolous history, then that's perfectly understandable. However, if you have a consistent customer who has never ever called in a warranty claim, then they at least deserve to be heard out. It made no sense that after so many purchases in a four year span that I would suddenly call them up with something frivolous. It's common sense man. Warmoth FAILED to support their customers. I warn anyone buying Warmoth because they do not care about the customer one bit.

I can't argue with you there. They should have at the very least heard you out.
 
Padre Bonic":1qkljmti said:
Padre Bonic":1qkljmti said:
If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

SavageRiffer":1qkljmti said:
That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

In that case, I have to fall back on my history with them. If I was the kind of person with a frivolous history, then that's perfectly understandable. However, if you have a consistent customer who has never ever called in a warranty claim, then they at least deserve to be heard out. It made no sense that after so many purchases in a four year span that I would suddenly call them up with something frivolous. It's common sense man. Warmoth FAILED to support their customers. I warn anyone buying Warmoth because they do not care about the customer one bit.

I can't argue with you there. They should have at the very least heard you out.

It's fixed!!! Not the nut, but after posting yesterday, I was determined to set the guitar up. So I went through the whole dog and pony show once more to get it all leveled out. Now it's one of my best playing guitars. If I can't find a replacement nut, then I'm just going to put a maple dowel in there.
 
Reading this thread definitely put things in context for me.
I’d be pretty pissed off if I’d gone to all the trouble of putting this sweet guitar together and then had a small bit of it fail too. Glad it’s working out for you SavageRiffer. Hope you can get her fixed someday.
 
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