thenine
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Olberman is a complete traitor. His vicious attacks make me wonder why he even lives in America if he fucking hates it so much!
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Geraldo Rivera wants to fight Keith Olbermann... like, literally kick his ass.
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Since when is questioning the competancy of your government traitorous in this country? You realize that's the foremost principle this country was built on, don't you? His criticism is aimed at the government (mostly GW), not the country as a whole.
Would you rather nobody could speak up against the wrongs committed by those in power? You'd do well to move to Iran or China if you dig that sort of tyranny. I hear they're all about censorship.
thenine":7ef90 said:
Since when is questioning the competancy of your government traitorous in this country? You realize that's the foremost principle this country was built on, don't you? His criticism is aimed at the government (mostly GW), not the country as a whole.
Would you rather nobody could speak up against the wrongs committed by those in power? You'd do well to move to Iran or China if you dig that sort of tyranny. I hear they're all about censorship.
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Hell, man they all read off the teleprompter. The only difference is that when Olbermann reads it, unlike Oreilly, he's reading the truth.
Pot Meet Kettle.
I guess some folks are so far to the extreme right, that even those in the center are dubbed liberal by them. Neo-Cons consider themselves to be the religious right... when in fact, they are neither religious, nor right.
Hannity/Limbaugh/Coulter,etc= Right
Olbermann= CORRECT
Oreilly- OFF IN HIS OWN DELUSIONAL WORLD
King Crimson":9ddc4 said:
Hell, man they all read off the teleprompter. The only difference is that when Olbermann reads it, unlike Oreilly, he's reading the truth.
Pot Meet Kettle.
I guess some folks are so far to the extreme right, that even those in the center are dubbed liberal by them. Neo-Cons consider themselves to be the religious right... when in fact, they are neither religious, nor right.
Hannity/Limbaugh/Coulter,etc= Right
Olbermann= CORRECT
Oreilly- OFF IN HIS OWN DELUSIONAL WORLD
Code001
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For like the 45893475983475893475983457th time, O'Reilly isn't right-wing....
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itsme
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You belong on the CNN or New York Times forum. What are you doing here? You anti-American P.O.S! Move to the middle-east where they'd cut your balls off for saying shit like that. Like the other left-wingers, you've obviously forgotten 9/11.
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Seriously, I love all these fucking UHH-MUUR-CUUNS who tout to the country their love for it and its UHH-MUUR-CUUN values while trampling all over what it was builit on. Which wouuld be.......*drummmmmmmmmmmmmmrooollllllll*
QUESTIONING YOUR FUCKING GOVERNMENT!!!
Jesus Christ almighty, in my opinion it is those people who arent American. There isnt a thing wrong in the world with criticizing what our leaders are doing. Know why? Cause every damn one of them is a piece of shit. Know why we have the right to own guns? So if the government starts pulling shit like THIS, then we can goddamn do something about it. Constitution buddy! Im dead serious!
Now we have a government so vile and corrupt it should make every single one of us sick. When did we lose the power? Who knows. And you would call me Un-American for saying this. What a joke man. Do you hear yourself really? When someone is wrong they are WRONG, no matter what chair they hold or power the wield.
So wake up you sheep. Its we the people who are getting screwed here and they have us EXACTLY where they want us. DIVIDED. Divided we fall. We are so busy fighting eachother....... "liberal", "neo-con" that we cant focus on who really has their dick in our asses.
QUESTIONING YOUR FUCKING GOVERNMENT!!!
Jesus Christ almighty, in my opinion it is those people who arent American. There isnt a thing wrong in the world with criticizing what our leaders are doing. Know why? Cause every damn one of them is a piece of shit. Know why we have the right to own guns? So if the government starts pulling shit like THIS, then we can goddamn do something about it. Constitution buddy! Im dead serious!
Now we have a government so vile and corrupt it should make every single one of us sick. When did we lose the power? Who knows. And you would call me Un-American for saying this. What a joke man. Do you hear yourself really? When someone is wrong they are WRONG, no matter what chair they hold or power the wield.
So wake up you sheep. Its we the people who are getting screwed here and they have us EXACTLY where they want us. DIVIDED. Divided we fall. We are so busy fighting eachother....... "liberal", "neo-con" that we cant focus on who really has their dick in our asses.
thenine
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nothing wrong with questioning the government. But his (and some of yours) personal attacks are over the line. I should go live in China? WTF is that statement?
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Well, I suggested that because you seem to have a problem with people questioning the government. You don't do that in China or you end up like the students at Tienamen square. Here we the people have the right (and duty, according to our forefathers) to question our government and hold it accountable for its actions. To say that someone hates our country because they attack an administration that does not listen to reason and has not for the past six years is pretty un-American if you ask me. I mean nothing personal with my attack; I just can't fathom why someone would be so upset about someone doing exactly what our forefathers would have him do in this situation. If it were Hannity freaking out at a Democratic president that was out of control, would you be as quick to call him a traitor?
If we'd never questioned the rule of King George III, we'd all have British accents right now. This is one of the main reasons why the Bill of Rights grants freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Our forefathers knew that power was dangerous, and left the people as a last resort to keep our government in check if the three-way checks and balances system ever failed.
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Well, I suggested that because you seem to have a problem with people questioning the government. You don't do that in China or you end up like the students at Tienamen square. Here we the people have the right (and duty, according to our forefathers) to question our government and hold it accountable for its actions. To say that someone hates our country because they attack an administration that does not listen to reason and has not for the past six years is pretty un-American if you ask me. I mean nothing personal with my attack; I just can't fathom why someone would be so upset about someone doing exactly what our forefathers would have him do in this situation. If it were Hannity freaking out at a Democratic president that was out of control, would you be as quick to call him a traitor?
If we'd never questioned the rule of King George III, we'd all have British accents right now. This is one of the main reasons why the Bill of Rights grants freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Our forefathers knew that power was dangerous, and left the people as a last resort to keep our government in check if the three-way checks and balances system ever failed.
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Yes, people should always question the government. That doesn't mean you need to resort to borderline treason-like statements though. It's mainly the republicans who question it too, as we don't want a big government controlling us. Big government is a democratic way of thinking. Yes, we have guns for that very reason, but I don't see why we should have to use them against our government at this point in time. Oh, and who mainly wants to take away our guns? That's right...democrats. If the government's people are armed, the government cannot control the people.
I'm not seeing how "corrupt" we are though. Yes, every party is split in extremes. However, this happens often. The parties will divide far from each other, and then they'll meet in the center again when the voters are simply sick of all the partisan politics. We were extremely divided before 9/11 as well. When we were attacked, everyone came together no matter what race, creed, or political standing. We have the power to come together. Just because we aren't now, doesn't mean we'll never be able to.
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Yes, people should always question the government. That doesn't mean you need to resort to borderline treason-like statements though. It's mainly the republicans who question it too, as we don't want a big government controlling us. Big government is a democratic way of thinking. Yes, we have guns for that very reason, but I don't see why we should have to use them against our government at this point in time. Oh, and who mainly wants to take away our guns? That's right...democrats. If the government's people are armed, the government cannot control the people.
I'm not seeing how "corrupt" we are though. Yes, every party is split in extremes. However, this happens often. The parties will divide far from each other, and then they'll meet in the center again when the voters are simply sick of all the partisan politics. We were extremely divided before 9/11 as well. When we were attacked, everyone came together no matter what race, creed, or political standing. We have the power to come together. Just because we aren't now, doesn't mean we'll never be able to.
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eonblue
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Im sure we are going to disagree on some fundamentals here Code and thats fine with me. But do you follow the news much? It seriously seems like every time I turn on the TV its something new. Kickbacks, ridiculously expensive taxpayer funder vacations, no-bid contracts anyone? Should that EVER be legal? And Im staying away from the harder core subjects(iraq and why we are there). Reps and dems. All of them in my opinion.
Anyway, I hope something that we can both hope for is that we meet in the center sooner than later.
Anyway, I hope something that we can both hope for is that we meet in the center sooner than later.
Code001
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I watch and read the news every day. Yes, both sides are at their extremities, but I have a feeling the public will get sick of that very soon. It might not be this election, but soon (hopefully).