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Echoes
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I knew I would regret selling my 50 watt Einstein...I am going to get another, OR should I get an Ecstasy....
Which is prefered here?
Which is prefered here?
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Bob Savage
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They're way different. What are you looking for? Neither will sound like the other.
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Echoes
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I couldnt afford to keep it and the plexi amps I currently have...the only MINOR thing I didnt like about the Einstein was that the 'solo' channel needed a little more top end sizzle so it was difficult to dial in the global presence where it worked for all the channels.
what are the tonal differences?
(I LOVED the Einstein and probably will get another but wanted to get feedback on an Ecstasy)
what are the tonal differences?
(I LOVED the Einstein and probably will get another but wanted to get feedback on an Ecstasy)
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Bob Savage
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<enter various subjective terminology regarding sound>Hmmmmm...</enter various subjective terminology regarding sound>
Sorry to seem so unhelpful, but they're so different that it might be best to describe what about them is similar.
Both can do clean, mid and high gain tones.
Echoes":1e1fe said:
<enter various subjective terminology regarding sound>Hmmmmm...</enter various subjective terminology regarding sound>
Sorry to seem so unhelpful, but they're so different that it might be best to describe what about them is similar.
Both can do clean, mid and high gain tones.
mrp5150
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The Bogner can do heavier rhythm tones better, the Einstein has a better clean channel, and I'd give a slight edge to the Bogner for mid gain tones, IMO. They both have an awesome lead tone, but I prefer the Bogner in that category as well.
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Bob Savage
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I have not owned an Einstein and only played them a few times. I will say, however, that the Ecstasy was my least favorite of the Bogners I've owned. I think it's a great amp and especially liked the blue channel on my Classic, but for my taste the Shiva and Uberschall were a better fit.
How's that for another non-answer?
Echoes":39a8d said:
I have not owned an Einstein and only played them a few times. I will say, however, that the Ecstasy was my least favorite of the Bogners I've owned. I think it's a great amp and especially liked the blue channel on my Classic, but for my taste the Shiva and Uberschall were a better fit.
How's that for another non-answer?
Random Hero
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Sorry, not meaning to hijack but Bob, do you think a Shiva make a nice compliment to my IV as a second amp?
Bob Savage":b80c2 said::|::QBB:
I have not owned an Einstein and only played them a few times. I will say, however, that the Ecstasy was my least favorite of the Bogners I've owned. I think it's a great amp and especially liked the blue channel on my Classic, but for my taste the Shiva and Uberschall were a better fit.
How's that for another non-answer?
Sorry, not meaning to hijack but Bob, do you think a Shiva make a nice compliment to my IV as a second amp?
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Echoes
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thanks, thats what I was looking for...what music style do you play?
Bob Savage":4dbf0 said::|::QBB:
I have not owned an Einstein and only played them a few times. I will say, however, that the Ecstasy was my least favorite of the Bogners I've owned. I think it's a great amp and especially liked the blue channel on my Classic, but for my taste the Shiva and Uberschall were a better fit.
How's that for another non-answer?
thanks, thats what I was looking for...what music style do you play?
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Bob Savage
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I'm not sure what you're looking to accomplish, but I can say that the Shiva is differnt enough from the MKIV that you certainly won't be covering the same ground. Being a Petrucci nut like you are though, I don't know if you'll enjoy the Shiva. It's intentionally very vintage and saggy (actually has a sag circuit) feeling.
Random Hero":9eb27 said:
I'm not sure what you're looking to accomplish, but I can say that the Shiva is differnt enough from the MKIV that you certainly won't be covering the same ground. Being a Petrucci nut like you are though, I don't know if you'll enjoy the Shiva. It's intentionally very vintage and saggy (actually has a sag circuit) feeling.
Random Hero
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I caught a couple of episodes of Rockstar Supernova, the guitarist - Rafael Moreira - was using Shivas, and I fell in love with the tone. And his playing. The fact that it is those things you mentioned only serves to draw me to it even more for some reason.
Problem being, I'd need to take a risk on it, as Bogners are so rare here.
Bob Savage":0cbef said:
I caught a couple of episodes of Rockstar Supernova, the guitarist - Rafael Moreira - was using Shivas, and I fell in love with the tone. And his playing. The fact that it is those things you mentioned only serves to draw me to it even more for some reason.
Problem being, I'd need to take a risk on it, as Bogners are so rare here.
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Echoes
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thanks for the input...this guy took $2600 for this amp so I;ll let you know what it sounds like when I get it...
http://cgi.ebay.com/purple-bogner-ecstasy-kt-88-101b_W0QQitemZ250116161234QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10171QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/purple-bogner-ecstasy-kt-88-101b_W0QQitemZ250116161234QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10171QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Random Hero
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Haha, oh shit, it's that Purple one!!
That's atleast it's second stint on eBay, I can't believe it hasn't sold. If I had the cash, that would be mine.
That's atleast it's second stint on eBay, I can't believe it hasn't sold. If I had the cash, that would be mine.
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Shiny_Surface
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Bob Savage":9c17c said:
I agree, I had a Shiva and Mark IV at the same time and found the same result.
