SOT: Guitar Myths?

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'63-Strat":b77a6 said:
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Judging by my guitars to amps ratio, I agree :lol:

But definitely the amp/speakers play a HUGE role. And I do agree that a crappy guitar into a great amp sounds better than vice versa. I just don't have any interest in playing a crap amp or guitar though :p

Past a certain point, "good" is subjective though. A crap guitar through a bruno cowtipper (or other boutique clean up) vs. a great guitar through a good silverface fender? I'm going with the latter!!! :D

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I think we have both shot ourselves in the foot today...glad to see I'm not the only one. :lol:
 
Neck thru guitars have more sustain, and are better than bolt ons.
 
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Megadeth7684":5a28d said:
Neck thru guitars have more sustain, and are better than bolt ons.

I almost forgot that one! It does my head in when people say that, because i have heard some bolt ons that have a LOT more sustain than some Thru neck guitars!
 
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dave_mc":29459 said:
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i guess it could go microphonic... all you have to do is break the wax potting, i guess if it got a sharp knock or something, that could do it...

couldn't it?

Not sure, All I know is my 498T from my LP studio has a very annoying high pitched squeal, regardless of the amp. :(
 
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blackba":2de8a said:
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Not sure, All I know is my 498T from my LP studio has a very annoying high pitched squeal, regardless of the amp. :(

Yup that sounds like it needs potting! If it already had been potted, the wax potting may have broken causing it to squeel. I would get a tech to have a quick look and to let you know wether it needs re potting or not.
 
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blackba":f87a2 said:
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Not sure, All I know is my 498T from my LP studio has a very annoying high pitched squeal, regardless of the amp. :(
Me and James Peters were talking about this one night...only if you know what you're doing...you could carefully heat the pickup with a lighter and lightly get the wax flowing again to reseal it.
 
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MrDan666":ed2d8 said:
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Yup that sounds like it needs potting! If it already had been potted, the wax potting may have broken causing it to squeel. I would get a tech to have a quick look and to let you know wether it needs re potting or not.

Its potted. I didn't know the potting could crack, but I guess everything wears down at some point. Its a decent pickup, but I am not sure its really worth fixing. I am using it as an excuse to try some others out.
 
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The Big Snit":61d84 said:
:|::QBB:Me and James Peters were talking about this one night...only if you know what you're doing...you could carefully heat the pickup with a lighter and lightly get the wax flowing again to reseal it.

I saw some instructions online for doing that, not with a lighter though. http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/barmagswap.htm

Once I get a bridge humbucker I like, I may give it a shot though....
 
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The Big Snit":97918 said:
:|::QBB:Me and James Peters were talking about this one night...only if you know what you're doing...you could carefully heat the pickup with a lighter and lightly get the wax flowing again to reseal it.

You can use a hairdryer too right?

I did that once to an old pickup where the potting cracked in places, and it fixed it in one go :D
 
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MrDan666":3dc21 said:
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You can use a hairdryer too right?

I did that once to an old pickup where the potting cracked in places, and it fixed it in one go :D
Sounds like a good idea...probably less danger of overheating.
 
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The Big Snit":dbe6e said:
:|::QBB:Sounds like a good idea...probably less danger of overheating.

Cool! Well it did work very well and it was simple to do :) The pickup was making some horrible noises before, but after i did this it was pretty much noiseless!
 
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The Big Snit":9d228 said:
:|::QBB:great sounding guitar + great sounding amp + great sound speakers/cab = :yes:

I don't think chasing just amps is going to land you your 'ideal' tone...the guitar and cab must be highly thought about/searched too.

Actually your tone begins with the guitar, so IMO it's the most critical piece.

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Digital Jams":9d228 said:
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A dead guitar will stop a great amp and cab in it's tracks ;)

Oh, i agree wholeheartedly, the guitar is extremely important, but the amount of people you see putting a gibson les paul (or paul reed smith, or similar) through a marshall mg10 is just criminal.

Obviously it's an extreme, but i've seen it happen before.

And a heck of a lot of people with a guitar that most would consider decent, at least, (say $500-$700), who want to buy a new $2000 guitar before upgrading their $50 solid state practice amp, is also criminal.

Obviously once you have the kickass amp, you want to look into great guitars too.

I'm not suggesting you run a botton of the range squier/westfield through a dumble or trainwreck, lol. But if you have a $500 guitar and a cheapo practice amp, you'll notice a much better improvement, IMO, upgrading your amp than your guitar- as long as you get on with your current guitar, obviously.

Obviously everything in the chain is important, to an extent. But amp seems to be the most-forgotten one (ok, maybe speakers, but i kind of count speakers in with the amp), and it's one of the, if not the, single most important thing. Suggesting "get a new amp" all the time is kind of a backlash against that, lol.

EDIT: also, i realise that a good amp will let the natural guitar tone through more- so if you go with the new amp first, it may increase your GAS for a new guitar(s) too! :lol:

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MrDan666":9d228 said:
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Yup that sounds like it needs potting! If it already had been potted, the wax potting may have broken causing it to squeel. I would get a tech to have a quick look and to let you know wether it needs re potting or not.

+1

if it's still under warranty, your pickup manufacturer should repot it too, i think.

also, check the pickup isn't loose in the guitar- the pickup mounting screws rattling might also cause microphonics...

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'63-Strat":9d228 said:
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Past a certain point, "good" is subjective though. A crap guitar through a bruno cowtipper (or other boutique clean up) vs. a great guitar through a good silverface fender? I'm going with the latter!!! :D

agreed. to be fair, i'm going by extremes. on some other forums, guys think a bc rich will make them sound br00talz metalz through their $50 marshall mg.


wow, mega post. sorry!

oh yeah, agreed on the bolt-on thing too, some people think bolt-ons automatically = crap, which is BS.
 
Its not just for guitarists that the amp is important, a friend of mine runs a $1500 keyboard through a sub $100 amp. The amp is used as a monitor onstage but it doesn't even have direct outs. I gave up harping on him to upgrade.....
 
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The Big Snit":43fb1 said:
:|::QBB:Sounds like a good idea...probably less danger of overheating.

Sounds a lot more like what I told you, actually. Use a lighter? That's certainly not my idea.
 
I've wondered about the following:

"If you don't turn your amp down fully before you turn it off, it can damage your amp."
-Myth?


And one my friend says:

I put a Humbucker in my Stratocaster to make it sound like a Les Paul.
 
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Digital Jams":a177e said:
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Eddie's tech stated 140VAC though during the now famous interview, no bias job is going to help you there :D
Hate to break it to you Scott, but there are plenty of places on the West Coast where you have a good 135+ volt out of the wall.

But yeah, it isn't gonna be good for the amp.
As for bias current, if I bring up the B+ on an amp I certainly don't want to change my bias, I might as well just run 110 and raise bias 20%.

As for EVH, all the different stories that go around, I rent to believe that he actually lowered the wall voltage down to 90-95 volt.
 
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Core9":188a0 said:
Myth 3#

BOILING YOUR NEW STRINGS MAKES THEM PLAY & SOUND BETTER
Actually, yet another one that lost stuff in translation. Boiling strings came from when we all were young and didn't want to spent our beer money on strings. Especially held true for bass players. Boiling used straings got another gig out of them.
 
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degenaro":2b254 said:
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Hate to break it to you Scott, but there are plenty of places on the West Coast where you have a good 135+ volt out of the wall.

But yeah, it isn't gonna be good for the amp.
As for bias current, if I bring up the B+ on an amp I certainly don't want to change my bias, I might as well just run 110 and raise bias 20%.

As for EVH, all the different stories that go around, I rent to believe that he actually lowered the wall voltage down to 90-95 volt.

Damn that far out of spec huh??

I agree about the 90-95 VAC remark.
 
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degenaro":13bf6 said:
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Actually, yet another one that lost stuff in translation. Boiling strings came from when we all were young and didn't want to spent our beer money on strings. Especially held true for bass players. Boiling used straings got another gig out of them.

Damn rotosounds back in the 80s were costing me $20.
 
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Digital Jams":9ba9b said:
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Damn that far out of spec huh??

I agree about the 90-95 VAC remark.
Yup, I remember the first 100 UniValves we used higher voltage on, and one of the customers went through 34s like crazy I had him measure what came out of the wall and it was at 137 or so.
 
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