VERY humbling lesson today...Legato content.

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Gainfreak":0fa9e said:
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Yeah!! That what we did polyrhythms...


So every 5th huh? Methinks I was one off... but I'm always one off!! Story of my life!! :hys:
Lowest common denominator type stuff...
 
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'63-Strat":38d68 said:
Well I'm a left playing righty [insert Shea saying "TRAITORZ!!!" here] so my legato has always been stronger than my alt picking (which I'm working on right now). :doh:

I hear ya, another left-play-righty gimp here. :D If it wasn't for hammer-ons, I dunno where I'd be... Pretty much just had to realize my speed limit, unless I start practicing hours a day again I guess.

Not to distract from the thread, but have you found anything that helps the right hand stuff for our situation? PM me if so and ya don't mind.

Peace.
 
i can do legato not too badly in one position... where i get owned bad is where there are position shifts or slides (like satch, lynch, etc.).

I never really do all legato or all picked, i kinda do a gilbert type thing that's in-between the two... just what kinda comes naturally (i did it before i realised gilbert did)...
 
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Digital Jams":cb952 said:
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Super Locrian???

Thanks for all of the input guys, will be using this big time tomorrow when I start hitting the legato exercises.....too drunk right now :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_modes

should've called it super-duper-awesome-badass locrian.
 
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Digital Jams":a96d7 said:
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Super Locrian???

Thanks for all of the input guys, will be using this big time tomorrow when I start hitting the legato exercises.....too drunk right now :o
When you have an altered dominant chord...or the implication of it. Say as in E7#9,E7#11. You have two very obvious choices when it comes to using melodic minor. Super Locrian and Lydian Dominant. Both are modes off the melodic minor scale.
Super Locrian is mode 7, and Lyd. Dom. mode 4.
How does that help? Simple say you play an E alt. dom , use F melodic minor. As in E Super Locrian..or as in e-f-g-ab(g#)-bb-c-d-e
Or to use lyd. dom play the B melodic Minor...e,f#,g#a#(bb)-b-c#-d-e

And while I'm at it the old Yngwie move is along the same lines. Play harmonic minor a fifth up.
As in over E7, play A harmonic minor...e,f,g#,a,b,c,d,e
 
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degenaro":ca736 said:
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When you have an altered dominant chord...or the implication of it. Say as in E7#9,E7#11. You have two very obvious choices when it comes to using melodic minor. Super Locrian and Lydian Dominant. Both are modes off the melodic minor scale.
Super Locrian is mode 7, and Lyd. Dom. mode 4.
How does that help? Simple say you play an E alt. dom , use F melodic minor. As in E Super Locrian..or as in e-f-g-ab(g#)-bb-c-d-e
Or to use lyd. dom play the B melodic Minor...e,f#,g#a#(bb)-b-c#-d-e

And while I'm at it the old Yngwie move is along the same lines. Play harmonic minor a fifth up.
As in over E7, play A harmonic minor...e,f,g#,a,b,c,d,e


Well said Ed. In my example, the Altered dominant Chord I use is A7#5 or A7b9 which implies Bb Melodic Minor....the first mode would obviously work as well, but not as harmonically pleasing as the 4th or 7th.

good stuff! :thumbsup:
 
Im actually learning Legato and Tapping as well. and my teacher is killer.
One of the most difficult and stupid things for me is left hand muting .Im pretty good with muting using picking hand. But its hard to do it with the fret hand and try to not be concsious of it and slow down ..I can see it taking some time ..to get it to be habit
 
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degenaro":274f5 said:
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When you have an altered dominant chord...or the implication of it. Say as in E7#9,E7#11. You have two very obvious choices when it comes to using melodic minor. Super Locrian and Lydian Dominant. Both are modes off the melodic minor scale.
Super Locrian is mode 7, and Lyd. Dom. mode 4.
How does that help? Simple say you play an E alt. dom , use F melodic minor. As in E Super Locrian..or as in e-f-g-ab(g#)-bb-c-d-e
Or to use lyd. dom play the B melodic Minor...e,f#,g#a#(bb)-b-c#-d-e

And while I'm at it the old Yngwie move is along the same lines. Play harmonic minor a fifth up.
As in over E7, play A harmonic minor...e,f,g#,a,b,c,d,e

MAkes sense, thanks Ed as always.


Shit my pinky is freaking killing me, I cannot believe much much I have not worked it out and 2 hours of pull-offs and Yngwie single string 10-13-12-13-10 and it is freaking throbbing :D
 
It's always a blast to see killer players play some mean ass licks! Very humbling and inspiring.

Doing bends is very good training for the pinky too.:)

-Jaakko
 
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Jakem":4f4ec said:
It's always a blast to see killer players play some mean ass licks! Very humbling and inspiring.

Doing bends is very good training for the pinky too.:)

-Jaakko

Very true! I am really lucky to have this guy to say the least.

I did not see your question Jaako, the 550 is doing great and getting ready to install a new bridge pup. Can't say what it is yet though ;)
 
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Gainfreak":aa330 said:
I played in 5's and he played in 7 and every 4th pass, we wound up on the 1 together... WTF!!!!! :hys:

I love that kind of stuff!
 
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degenaro":da245 said:
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When you have an altered dominant chord...or the implication of it. Say as in E7#9,E7#11. You have two very obvious choices when it comes to using melodic minor.

I find it far simpler to meander around the fingerboard looking for a good note or two rather than spending all the time learning this stuff. All these pound signs and numbers make my head spin.
 
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Bob Savage":4bebb said:
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I love that kind of stuff!

Me To!! But after playing it a few times, I got the sudden urge to kill my dog. The funny thing is that I don;t own a Dog. Weird huh.
 
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Gainfreak":f269b said:
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Me To!! But after playing it a few times, I got the sudden urge to kill my dog. The funny thing is that I don;t own a Dog. Weird huh.

That's a completely rational reaction.
 
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70strathead":b0f26 said:
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Well said Ed. In my example, the Altered dominant Chord I use is A7#5 or A7b9 which implies Bb Melodic Minor....the first mode would obviously work as well, but not as harmonically pleasing as the 4th or 7th.

good stuff! :thumbsup:
Huh, not sure I understand what you mean? The 7th mode of Bb Mel min is A Super Locrian what I'd expect to hear across a 7#5. The first mode would be A melodic minor, which really wouldn't work for my ears because of the major 7 in it.
FWIW if I hear A7b9 that's an immediate A phrygian dom sound to me, as in D harmonic minor.
 
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Digital Jams":c14cb said:
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MAkes sense, thanks Ed as always.


Shit my pinky is freaking killing me, I cannot believe much much I have not worked it out and 2 hours of pull-offs and Yngwie single string 10-13-12-13-10 and it is freaking throbbing :D
Want some more pain?
Play this pattern 13-10-12-13-12-10
Now play it without any pick strokes, play it all the way across the board from e to E string and back. No picking whatsoever. Play it with the 12th fret note used with the ring, and when your hand is about to fall of use the middle.
Send the chiropractor bill to Bob.

And now turn this around...
10-13-10-12-13-12 still no picking at all, not even the first note.
Send this doctor's bill to Ralphie... :)
 
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