Chris Cornell

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peaveyT60":d814e said:
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It may have went up the charts, but grunge was around in the 80's. If it came out of Seattle in the late 80's/early 90s, it was grunge. Grunge was just as much a movement as it was a sound. Go and watch the movie Singles and you'll see performances/appearances by Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, AIC; all part of the movement.

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i'd like to add that AIC was kind of like Soundgarden in that they definitely had some heavier, 80's-guitar-riff influence, the messages of their songs were very Grunge; reality, addiction, depression, etc..
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The messages of songs has little to do with it - grunge wasn't really a message. It was just a rejection/backlash of the 80's flamboiance and more-is-better cookie-cutter junk that was on the radio.

People have been singing about addiction, depressions, reality for a long time. Otherwise, Black Sabbath or Deep Purple could be considered grunge.

Grunge became a label for Seattle bands once Alternative became too common - because someone said Seattle is a dirty city.
 
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kannibul":94c23 said:
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"Grunge" wasn't defined until Nirvana's "Smells like Teen Spirit" became a sensation. From that point forward, all things of a similar nature was considered grunge, that came from Seattle, primarily.

Before that, they were just rock bands.

That said, Jerry's from Oklahoma. If Jerry pulled them all back here and decided to push their music out in this avenue via Tulsa and OKC, would it still have been thrown in with "grunge"?

Probably not.

Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, White Zombie's first CD - those define grunge. STP, AIC, Tool...those do not. :)
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wrong

"Grunge" is just a coined term. AIC was in on the movement with the others from Seattle, that started back in the 80's with bands like Mother Love Bone.

White Zombie? Puh-fucking-LEASE. Don't even mention that retarded redneck shit in the same breath.

oh well, you know what they say about arguing on the interwebs
 
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peaveyT60":aa3b9 said:
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wrong

"Grunge" is just a coined term. AIC was in on the movement with the others from Seattle, that started back in the 80's with bands like Mother Love Bone.

White Zombie? Puh-fucking-LEASE. Don't even mention that retarded redneck shit in the same breath.

oh well, you know what they say about arguing on the interwebs
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What's wrong with White Zombie?

Lasexocisto wasn't bad at all, an astrocreep, while not as good as Lasexorcisto, was still pretty good.
 
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peaveyT60":13a23 said:
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Here's where you guys are falling short; VITALOGY is a fucking work of art that goes way beyond just an "album." Nothing sounds like it, nothing. Listen to "Tremor Christ" and read the lyrics. Vedder wrote that around the time of Cobain's death.

Also, YIELD is an INCREDIBLE album; among their best material.
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I own every pearl jam album and didn't say I didn't like their other albums. I was speaking in the context of sah5150 saying how he stopped following them. Take your grunge altruism elsewhere. Likely I'm a bigger fan then you are nyah nyah nyah etc. :lame:
 
He has great voice, IMO. How many times has he "made it" in the music biz?:eek:
 
I have to say that when I think of AIC I don't think of grunge right away...they always seemed a little more complex and deeper than a lot of the other stuff that was grunge.
 
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