Fuckaroo Bonzai...The JVM KILLS.....................

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Lord Toneking":b879f said:

Geeezzz!! Now I'm really confused

1. I just bought a Splawn
2. I've always kinda trolled and admired Zao for his gear and info on gear
3. I never realized what an awesome player Carl is
4. took a half hour to read through this entire thread

and last but not least..

5. I still have'nt heard any of Ralph's JVM clips from Steve!!!!

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You'll have a better chance of seeing Bigfoot in Central Park before you hear a Gainfreak clip.

Thanks for the words j.b..
Your always cool around here.



I did indeed own a jvm and never did I say anything bad about it. I'm happy everybodys got their new amps and I'm happy there's new products and clips.
I liked the amp when I owned it, the clean was great in green mode, I liked ch2 in orange and red but I liked the gain low, ch3 was my fav in orange and red modes, it really shined for me, I never need to put the gain past 1 o'clock and that was plenty. Ch4 in orange was pretty good also.
The amp had lots of lowend, way more than I needed, I used my uberkab, I wished I had tried it with v30's or greenbacks.
The reverb sounded pretty good and was very usable. I wasn't in love with the way it looked, it kinda reminds me of the cheaper marshall that don't have tubes.
Its got saturated gain and the right amount of compression. I thought it was a good amp and I was gonna keep it but I am used to my splawn and I just liked it better that's all. I feel the jvm is in a differant class than the dsl and tsl. The midi was a nice feature and the amp is better than a lot of the amps I've opwned that double and triple the price. That's my feeling on the whole jvm situation. I found it to be a modern type of marshall with the jcm 800 flavor. I only sold it because I didn't think I would play it as long as I had my splawn and I thought something like a roadster would suit me better.

Thanks carl

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zao":87462 said:

Thanks for the words j.b..
Your always cool around here.



I did indeed own a jvm and never did I say anything bad about it. I'm happy everybodys got their new amps and I'm happy there's new products and clips.
I liked the amp when I owned it, the clean was great in green mode, I liked ch2 in orange and red but I liked the gain low, ch3 was my fav in orange and red modes, it really shined for me, I never need to put the gain past 1 o'clock and that was plenty. Ch4 in orange was pretty good also.
The amp had lots of lowend, way more than I needed, I used my uberkab, I wished I had tried it with v30's or greenbacks.
The reverb sounded pretty good and was very usable. I wasn't in love with the way it looked, it kinda reminds me of the cheaper marshall that don't have tubes.
Its got saturated gain and the right amount of compression. I thought it was a good amp and I was gonna keep it but I am used to my splawn and I just liked it better that's all. I feel the jvm is in a differant class than the dsl and tsl. The midi was a nice feature and the amp is better than a lot of the amps I've opwned that double and triple the price. That's my feeling on the whole jvm situation. I found it to be a modern type of marshall with the jcm 800 flavor. I only sold it because I didn't think I would play it as long as I had my splawn and I thought something like a roadster would suit me better.

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Dude, great review and even more killer amp collection!! WOW! Could you give me a quick comparison between the Herbert and the JVM?
thanks.
mike.

We need some gainfreak JVM clips!!!!!!!!!!

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yngzaklynch":c3bc2 said:

We need some gainfreak JVM clips!!!!!!!!!!

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I was just playing that sucker before!! I should have hit record because it was getting some killer sounds!! Love that amp!! To bad Its scotty's!!

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Gainfreak":a2798 said:

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I was just playing that sucker before!! I should have hit record because it was getting some killer sounds!! Love that amp!! To bad Its scotty's!!

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Recognize beeatch!!!! Yeah man. The Mk IV is a super nice amp and has a lot of unique qualities. I can't ever deny that. However the JVM is the Marshall I've been hoping for and then some all these years. I can't ever remember playing as much, well as much free time as I can eek out.

i liked the jvm better than the herbert, its a better sounding amp for low gain and medium gain stuff, and it will be easier for playing with a band because it wont get lost, the herbert has more lowend and sounds more modern. the herbert also had a better clean but the jvm clean is still good and very usable, i like to sometimes play classic rock and i didnt like the herbert for that, the jvm can do clean stuff, and it can get better rock tones since the marshall voicing suits rock music better.
for slayer and older metallica stuff i liked the jvm better also. for heavy slipknot type stuff i would take the herbert.

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zao":9be52 said:

i liked the jvm better than the herbert, its a better sounding amp for low gain and medium gain stuff, and it will be easier for playing with a band because it wont get lost, the herbert has more lowend and sounds more modern. the herbert also had a better clean but the jvm clean is still good and very usable, i like to sometimes play classic rock and i didnt like the herbert for that, the jvm can do clean stuff, and it can get better rock tones since the marshall voicing suits rock music better.
for slayer and older metallica stuff i liked the jvm better also. for heavy slipknot type stuff i would take the herbert.

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I would definitely get a Herbert...if it had a half power switch. That would open it up for more classic rock capability and some softer tones I would imagine. I have heard some great tone from Herbert and I have also heard some dry,throaty and harsh tone. For me, 100 watts is all around best choice for riffing and leads. 50 watts would be ideal for lead, though. I wish JVM had a half switch. Mesa has spoiled me on thaat.

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zao":69ca4 said:

for slayer and older metallica stuff i liked the jvm better also. for heavy slipknot type stuff i would take the herbert.

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Hey zao,

Please pardon my noobness...but I am considering the JVM seriously.

You state that the Herbert will do a better slipknot then the JVM...but will the JVM do the slipknot style well at all? This would be closer to the tone I prefer but I want/need the versatillity of the JVM.

If you wouldn't mind it would be great if you could elaborate a bit on this.

Thanks big time in advance!!!

P.S. Any one else that has any ideas on this, your input would also be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!!!

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zao":10429 said:

i liked the jvm better than the herbert, its a better sounding amp for low gain and medium gain stuff, and it will be easier for playing with a band because it wont get lost, the herbert has more lowend and sounds more modern. the herbert also had a better clean but the jvm clean is still good and very usable, i like to sometimes play classic rock and i didnt like the herbert for that, the jvm can do clean stuff, and it can get better rock tones since the marshall voicing suits rock music better.
for slayer and older metallica stuff i liked the jvm better also. for heavy slipknot type stuff i would take the herbert.

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thanks Bud! well then, it looks like it's time to throw down for the JVM. The JVM will sit nicely in this hareem of Marshalls and Cameron-modded Marshalls.


However, I feel like I'm a late-comer to the boo-tiki Hi-Gain heads dance (SLO, XTC, OD100, PB, Herb, etc.). I've always been more attracted to vintage Marshalls than say an Engl. But I think the JVM will sit well with the Herb

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eddyrox":6e98b said:

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thanks Bud! well then, it looks like it's time to throw down for the JVM. The JVM will sit nicely in this hareem of Marshalls and Cameron-modded Marshalls.

However, I feel like I'm a late-comer to the boo-tiki Hi-Gain heads dance (SLO, XTC, OD100, PB, Herb, etc.). I've always been more attracted to vintage Marshalls than say an Engl. But I think the JVM will sit well with the Herb

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Fuck dude! Sweet LP

Well I'm just glad I finally got to play a JVM over the weekend. I was really getting itchy...growing up playing Marshalls I was very interested in seeing what they could do to get into the more Modern type amps. Really lost interest in them with the 900 series and often thought of buying a DSL.

Well the JVM is great, no doubt. Anybody that ever questions whether a Marshall has enough built in gain can complain no further...this thing has gain like a 5150...to the degree where it's really unusable after a certain point. BTW/ no squealing in my tryout. Cleans are great, gain is great, low end is a little flubby IMO, could have been the cab. All in all a very modern Marshall with old school ties. Although the test drive quenched my GAS for the amp for awhile, I see myself buying one soon. The versatility combined with the tone is just to much for me to pass up.

Now does it spit on my Quick Rod? No, not in the least IMO. Really the Splawn is like the best modded Marshall type tone you can get along with Camerons etc... Obviously the JVM is Marshalls attempt at the ultimate modern Marshall and that's exactly what it is. Two different amps IMO but one having an old school slant with along with Modern voicings, the other being a simple hot rod. Would I take one over the other...at this point I don't know, the QR is a beast IMO. The louder it gets the more it roars. I'm just not real sure I want to part with my QR in order to get the JVM, if I can find a way to get the JVM without selling the QR, that would be great. THe QR just blows me away everytime I play...after playing the JVM, then playing my QR...my GAS was put on hold for awhile.

Oh well, this is just my opinion...afterall my number one amp is my JSX.

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5*_PDR_Wizard":c818d said:

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Hey zao,

Please pardon my noobness...but I am considering the JVM seriously.

You state that the Herbert will do a better slipknot then the JVM...but will the JVM do the slipknot style well at all? This would be closer to the tone I prefer but I want/need the versatillity of the JVM.

If you wouldn't mind it would be great if you could elaborate a bit on this.

Thanks big time in advance!!!

P.S. Any one else that has any ideas on this, your input would also be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!!!

5*

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Zao...Anyone...?

Ask me again later, I'm going to buy another jvm today and I think I need to give this amp another chance because there's way too much love for it.

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5*_PDR_Wizard":fc625 said:

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Hey zao,

Please pardon my noobness...but I am considering the JVM seriously.

You state that the Herbert will do a better slipknot then the JVM...but will the JVM do the slipknot style well at all? This would be closer to the tone I prefer but I want/need the versatillity of the JVM.

If you wouldn't mind it would be great if you could elaborate a bit on this.

Thanks big time in advance!!!

P.S. Any one else that has any ideas on this, your input would also be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!!!

5*

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I have had a JVM now for a couple months. Anyone who tells you that the JVM can't do modern heavy tones is deaf or does not know how to dial the amp in. I realize that many have this difficulty and I think that is why there is so much misinformation about the amp. I play in a couple bands, one of them very heavy (MH, FF, LoG-ish) and one of them a Judas Priest tribute and the JVM has no prob with any of them. I haven't gotten it into my live rig permanently yet because I am using it in a studio right now for session work, which is also a huge plus for this amp. I will have some heavy clips to post soon...

Do I think the JVM is the best amp ever in the history of the world? No, but what amp is besides a '67 Plexi?!! Seriously, it is a great amp that will do just about everything you could want. Just like any amp, it will kill for some and not for others. The bashing of the amp that I have seen by formner owners is ridiculous. I have tried so many amps over the years and don't think my energy is best spent bashing the ones I didn't like.

I haven't played it yet but you guys are killing me with temptation. The only friends I know who have had the JVM, said the H&K Triamp was even better...basically could do all the JVM could do with more authority, thickness and tone. I know some guys prefer the JVM to a Mesa and vice versa but that is personal taste. Thing that bothers me about Marshall now is theire amps feel like they are made in China.

I am really loving my JVM. I've owned it for a month and a half and it is far superior to many other Marshalls I've owned. Don't get me wrong - it cannot do a "real" plexi vibe (I still own a 67 SB and a 68 SL) but it can get somewhat close. I believe the JVM has too much filtering to enable a closer plexi tone, but who cares? It is what it is; a fantastic, versatile tube amp that has nearly every feature I could ever ask for in a Marshall. When playing through the JMP-1 in the studio days, I always wished Marshall would incorporate some of the features (i.e., midi, mutliple voicings with on-the-fly programming, etc.) into a tube head, and now Marshall has finally done it!

This is the first time I have EVER used a STOCK Marshall that didn't need a good overdrive in front of the preamp. And palm muted riffs are so satisfying you could swear you are about to have a bowel movement.

But of course it isn't for everyone. If you are playing some other amp besides a Marshall, you should definitely play through one before buying it just to make sure it is the amp for you, personally. Everyone has a different tone preferences, which is a good thing. Otherwise everyone would sound like me.

My concern is build quality and was looking at the Mesa Roadster as it seems to be built much better.....but I need to play through both.