Fuckaroo Bonzai...The JVM KILLS.....................

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SgtThump":7dd3b said:
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No offense AT ALL Ralph, but the DSL feels like it's built better than the JVM. Seriously... The knobs and buttons all feel more sturdy on the DSL. The JVM is one heavy ass head, though.
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None taken!


That said, I have been told by my amp tech Cory that the JVM is built better then the DSL....Knobs asside. He is talking the internal workings.
 
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yngzaklynch":7abe9 said:
Oh holy shit. If you like it play it. If you don't fine, play something else. I can't beleive this shit is still going on.
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You can't believe you're chafing? Maybe your thighs need some lubricant.
 
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giblespaul2001":a02cc said:
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Kannibul..I am not saying the 2555 is the HOLY GRAIL.

Don't be mad at me because you sold the Orange RV :D
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Persoanlly, I don't really care. I bought the amp knowing for me, personally, it'd be the last amp I'll buy.

I played it today, and if someone can't find a good SET of tones in this amp they are retarded. That's all there is to it.

Oh, and I turned the knobs all over the place - it's not as bad as what people make it out to be. Again, unless you are a retard, the amp will last just as well as any other amp out there on the market.
 
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SgtThump":9edb3 said:
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No offense AT ALL Ralph, but the DSL feels like it's built better than the JVM. Seriously... The knobs and buttons all feel more sturdy on the DSL. The JVM is one heavy ass head, though.
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I agree but also disagree. The push-switches on the DSL/TSL were known for wearing out (pen-click style), where the switches on the JVM are press-contact style, likely won't. The knobs - sure that's in the TSL/DSL favor, but hell, it's like someone crammed 3 DSL's in one shell given the number of channels and modes.

Time will tell. For me, Marshall fixed the two biggest issues I had with the TSL. The channel switching, and the footswitch.

I couldn't be happier with the amp.
 
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Gainfreak":36539 said:
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None taken!


That said, I have been told by my amp tech Cory that the JVM is built better then the DSL....Knobs asside. He is talking the internal workings.
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Less seperate PCB's, the components look to be the same level. It appears to have more "care" on assembly - I'll have to look again, but I think I remember seeing some zip ties.
 
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Gainfreak":b4441 said:
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This is not meant to sound harsh but Im going to make a few points here.


Do You own a MKIV? regardless if you do or not, Pull out one of the push pull pots and go ahead..... Shake them around....Put some real pressure on them. Now let me know if you were able to crack any of the pots straight off and get back to me. The point is if you go looking to break something, the odds are that you can do it. No one is EVER and I mean Ever going to tell me that a JVM knob is going to break of from normal use. If you smack it into a wall are go leaning on it to see how much its going to flex then maybe but if you use it like a normal human being... aint gonna happen.

NEXT

Lots of guys are gigging with the JVM and Yes... Marshall did use a cost cutting build plan but I know of not one person who has gigged with the Marshall and cracked off a knob. A good friend of mine is going on his 4th or 5th gig with a JVM withought one single problem. The funny thing is that from a build perspective, the DSL's aren't as sound as the JVM's and teh JVM is getting all of the backlash because of internet horseshit. If people are really concerned with the Build quality then lets see what they say if Marshall fixes those issues and you now have to Pay $3000 + for an amp like the JVM.
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Is it really cost-cutting so much as having to cram so much into such a small space?

I think the pots they used are smaller than the dime-sized ones...
 
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-=MYK=-":c9b10 said:
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You can't believe you're chafing? Maybe your thighs need some lubricant.
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Just spent a whole minute trying to make sense of your post. If it was a dig, it was weak. If it was a joke, it was weak. Or was it LedZep's post that's gotten to you?
 
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yngzaklynch":64172 said:
Oh holy shit. If you like it play it. If you don't fine, play something else. I can't beleive this shit is still going on.
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Why? The first 14 or so pages was about the tone of the amp and some arguing... might as well bring the build quality of the amp to the party also...
 
I discovered that when I have my JVM with the masters at "0" and channel volumes at "0" the amp makes no sound at all. That's the only thing I don't like.
 
When someone buys a NEW amp for around $1700.00. And you have to retube it before you play it...NOW ...thats quality. Marshall was letting them fly out with Bad Preamp tubes.
 
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giblespaul2001":5f638 said:
When someone buys a NEW amp for around $1700.00. And you have to retube it before you play it...NOW ...thats quality. Marshall was letting them fly out with Bad Preamp tubes.
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Name an amp that doesn't do the same damn thing?
 
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yngzaklynch":9b9e8 said:
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Just spent a whole minute trying to make sense of your post. If it was a dig, it was weak. If it was a joke, it was weak. Or was it LedZep's post that's gotten to you?
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Oh.
 
I do love the JVM and when i first heard it i thought.."this is it"! THEN i played the Diezel stuff and i honestly felt that the diezel owned it. I A/B'd them btw.
The one thing i didnt like about the marshall though was the fact that it seemed alot thinner and more harsh at high volumes! When i a/b'd the marshall and the VH4 the diezel had way more mids and low end than the marshall did. ...so i bought the Herb.
I do love the crispness of the marshall and the more silver jubileish tones out of it.
But for rippin lead tones i feel the diezel has more ripping mids and low's (good lows)
 
Rob Tahan":31rgem5p said:
I do love the JVM and when i first heard it i thought.."this is it"! THEN i played the Diezel stuff and i honestly felt that the diezel owned it. I A/B'd them btw.
The one thing i didnt like about the marshall though was the fact that it seemed alot thinner and more harsh at high volumes! When i a/b'd the marshall and the VH4 the diezel had way more mids and low end than the marshall did. ...so i bought the Herb.
I do love the crispness of the marshall and the more silver jubileish tones out of it.
But for rippin lead tones i feel the diezel has more ripping mids and low's (good lows)
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Talk about Night Of The Living Threads. :lol: :LOL:

But yeah, i also thought the JVM sounded somewhat thin. I thought my Boogie Mark IV sounded better for what i liked. But i since dumped the IV for a Mark III. :thumbsup:
 
gybe":2f8sbfvy said:
Well, I will also say that I also found the Herbert to not cut in a jam setting at all, it just seemed to disappear. This was in a rehersal studio that I had built and played in with the same band for 15 hours a week for 7 years. My Riveras, Bogner, VHT, and Marshalls all cut through just fine. The Diezel, not so much. I know that space better than my own bedroom and that amp just did not cut it. I had the mids cranked and the bass around noon on ch. 2 and 3, no mid cut. Unfortunately through Celestion 75s at the time, but I have never had a problem with them cutting before. :confused: Just food for thought as not everybody is as noobish as you assume...
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You definitely are noobish.

I've had my Herbert for 4 years now. I’ve actually had two Diezel Herbert amps. I've played both of them in just about every scenario your noob anecdote could conjure up.

There are knobs on the front of the amp; I suggest that you use them, appropriately. Herbert has no difficulty cutting through any "band" scenario in the right hands with the right knowledge. Let me reiterate – Herbert has no difficulty cutting through any "band" scenario in the right hands with the right knowledge.

Remember every venue is different, so don't think that you can pull out a $4,000 state-of-the-art guitar amp and universally heave it into any venue or setting with the same configuration and shine, as Herbert will and can, anywhere.

And this statement that you made completely exposes the simple fact that you are clueless about the vast, flexible characteristics of Herbert:

gybe":2f8sbfvy said:
My Riveras, Bogner, VHT, and Marshalls all cut through just fine.
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Again, different amps *completely* and not even close to comparison. You are attempting to assess an Heirloom Amplifier to a bag of old stale prunes. I’ll give the VHT a little more slack. I had a VHT CLX100 and it was the best amp I had ever played and used up until I was introduced to Herbert.

Really, the misinformation about Diezel amps that goes around these music boards is for the most part dismal, uninformed and (I'm sorry to say) pathetic at times.

- David
 
Dammit Steve, you made me curious on this whole JVM thing. My plans were getting a plexi in the
near future. Look what you've done?!! :lol: :LOL:
 
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