ttosh
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The bible pretty much speaks for *the eyes of god*. The Christian community to often does not convey what the bible says however. I am not sure where your trying to go here, but the Bible is the word of God, it is not for you to judge nor me, nor anybody a persons heart. If you believe in God that is where he comes in. If you do not believe in God then the point is mute anyway.
I have strong faith that I love to share with others, but never force. I believe each person be it an atheist, Christian, etc... has decisions to make for themselves. Again my beliefs fall back to Christ and the Bible, and the homosexuality you speak of is definitely a sin. But sin in Gods eyes is Sin be it murder, homosexuality or telling a lie. If you believe in Christ and accept him and try to follow his steps then kudos, because none of us are going to get from birth to death without sin and that is what it is.
Music can be used for many purposes. There are good bands that seem satanic, good bands that are satanic, good bands that say their Christian that are not and good bands that are genuine.
So in a nutshell if you think Christianity is stupid like some have stated in this thread then you will not listen to this type of music. Those like myself will not listen to music that is of satanic nature. This is why I am glad there are many types of music, and lyrics because we each have different tastes.
Mike_V":3b030 said::|::QBB:
I am not talking about *in the eyes of GOD*. I am talking about what the Bible says and how the Christian community feel. He is indeed a great bass player and has a good voice. AND, is a nice person.
The bible pretty much speaks for *the eyes of god*. The Christian community to often does not convey what the bible says however. I am not sure where your trying to go here, but the Bible is the word of God, it is not for you to judge nor me, nor anybody a persons heart. If you believe in God that is where he comes in. If you do not believe in God then the point is mute anyway.
I have strong faith that I love to share with others, but never force. I believe each person be it an atheist, Christian, etc... has decisions to make for themselves. Again my beliefs fall back to Christ and the Bible, and the homosexuality you speak of is definitely a sin. But sin in Gods eyes is Sin be it murder, homosexuality or telling a lie. If you believe in Christ and accept him and try to follow his steps then kudos, because none of us are going to get from birth to death without sin and that is what it is.
Music can be used for many purposes. There are good bands that seem satanic, good bands that are satanic, good bands that say their Christian that are not and good bands that are genuine.
So in a nutshell if you think Christianity is stupid like some have stated in this thread then you will not listen to this type of music. Those like myself will not listen to music that is of satanic nature. This is why I am glad there are many types of music, and lyrics because we each have different tastes.
ttosh
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No I do not know Mike, nor am I looking for a fight. Sorry if you took it this way.
Mike_V":c0d81 said::|::QBB:
By the tone of your post, it seems that you are just looking for a fight--
Who are YOU again.
IGNORE button on for you.
Are you a pal of Mitch's, looking for an argument so he has an excuse to ban me?
Egg me on--I wont bite...
Mike V
No I do not know Mike, nor am I looking for a fight. Sorry if you took it this way.
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well...some kids turn out good and others bad regardless of how they're raised. parents can only do so much before it becomes interference and they don't let their youngsters live or learn. i'm not anti-religious...just non-religious. i've met too many great people and the only reason they are as great as they are is because of their religion. whatever motivates you to be a decent human being...i'm all for it...even if i think it's stupid.
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well...some kids turn out good and others bad regardless of how they're raised. parents can only do so much before it becomes interference and they don't let their youngsters live or learn. i'm not anti-religious...just non-religious. i've met too many great people and the only reason they are as great as they are is because of their religion. whatever motivates you to be a decent human being...i'm all for it...even if i think it's stupid.
ttosh
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Well put, could not agree with you more!
j666":5d3b3 said::|::QBB:
well...some kids turn out good and others bad regardless of how they're raised. parents can only do so much before it becomes interference and they don't let their youngsters live or learn. i'm not anti-religious...just non-religious. i've met too many great people and the only reason they are as great as they are is because of their religion. whatever motivates you to be a decent human being...i'm all for it...even if i think it's stupid.
Well put, could not agree with you more!
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This guy's another example of what I was talking about
. I'm Christian, btw. I just don't pretend like everyone else in the world "gets it".
Mike_V":4c2d7 said::|::QBB:
I am not talking about *in the eyes of GOD*. I am talking about what the Bible says and how the Christian community feel. He is indeed a great bass player and has a good voice. AND, is a nice person.
This guy's another example of what I was talking about
. I'm Christian, btw. I just don't pretend like everyone else in the world "gets it".
ttosh
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Funny question. God created people with choice. Why does a person choose to be gay? Is gay even a choice? I cannot answer this since I am not gay.
Interesting view that God creates a person a certain way. You could also say why did God create murders, etc....
However if this was not the case then I guess we would be robots and not humans. That would be fun.
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Funny question. God created people with choice. Why does a person choose to be gay? Is gay even a choice? I cannot answer this since I am not gay.
Interesting view that God creates a person a certain way. You could also say why did God create murders, etc....
However if this was not the case then I guess we would be robots and not humans. That would be fun.
M
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I was under the impression that the christian god is "all knowing." Seems that he'd know if he created faggots or not. Are you saying that your god is ignorant?
ttosh":72056 said::|::QBB:
Funny question. God created people with choice. Why does a person choose to be gay? Is gay even a choice? I cannot answer this since I am not gay.
Interesting view that God creates a person a certain way. You could also say why did God create murders, etc....
However if this was not the case then I guess we would be robots and not humans. That would be fun.
I was under the impression that the christian god is "all knowing." Seems that he'd know if he created faggots or not. Are you saying that your god is ignorant?
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MitchSchaft
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He's saying that we have a choice and god can't control us.
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You are correct that God is all knowing. This means that he knows the decision we all are going to make. But he does not interfere with them.
Your sarcasm is quite humorous to me. I can tell this could turn into a real back and forth. So let's not make it that. You have your opinions which I kind of know where your coming from because one of my step sons friends ask the same questions. I do not know you, but as stated in some of the earlier posts I think each person is entitled to their opinions. And I love to have educated discussions about faith, religion, etc.... However you already started taking this down the road of a 3rd grader so if you want to continue as such then I will not contribute to the mentality. If you want to have a decent conversation and actually ask questions that have some meaning then I will add my commentary. Which is all I am adding, because everyone on this board has thoughts opinions and faith in different things.
Respect goes a long way to being able to believe what somebody says, you may want to remember that.
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You are correct that God is all knowing. This means that he knows the decision we all are going to make. But he does not interfere with them.
Your sarcasm is quite humorous to me. I can tell this could turn into a real back and forth. So let's not make it that. You have your opinions which I kind of know where your coming from because one of my step sons friends ask the same questions. I do not know you, but as stated in some of the earlier posts I think each person is entitled to their opinions. And I love to have educated discussions about faith, religion, etc.... However you already started taking this down the road of a 3rd grader so if you want to continue as such then I will not contribute to the mentality. If you want to have a decent conversation and actually ask questions that have some meaning then I will add my commentary. Which is all I am adding, because everyone on this board has thoughts opinions and faith in different things.
Respect goes a long way to being able to believe what somebody says, you may want to remember that.