Man I really hate to see how things have turned ugly here in the past few days, this is probably the best general gear forum on the net. I just read through this thread and it's kinda like hearing your parents fighting in the other room when you're a kid. I think that the whole rig-talk crew has done a hell of a job with this place and I would love to see things get ironed out between you guys. I don't post a whole lot here or anywhere else but I browse here just about every day when I have the time, I chime in when I feel like I have something to add when it's a gear/tech related thread or I may post in a more ot thread if I'm feeling witty. That is the beauty of this place to me, we actually talk about guitars and amps and people can get answers to in depth questions but we can have fun at the same time. I can't tell you how many threads that actually pretained to amps or tone etc. get buried by threads about farts or other stupid ot shit at HC, there's a nice mix here. There's other good places on the net for straight up all gear all the time but some of those are just too uptight and they seem to be inhabited by alot of snobs. There's alot of like minded guys here for the most part and it makes this place special. Thump, I'd just like to say thanks for starting this place and I hope you stick around. I think all of the mods here add to this place in their own way and you all do a good job, this drama latley has lead to wires getting crossed and things taken the wrong way, I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes and I may be way off but that's how it looks from here. I just hope things can get back to normal without any of you guys leaving for good.