get some pedals, I was really let down in the 800. Also, man, the market is high, people are buying these amps thinking they are more than what they actually are, I'm talking crazy prices. It is a good amp, I know I sound contradicting, but it lacks in several places, mainly usable onboard gain. I am not saying I was just hugely let down by the gain of the amp, but it is marketed and recognized by a huge nasty sound, this is because of mods/pedals. I am sure if you hang around places like this enough you understand. But, just trying to clarify. Average price is HIGH now!