i just never could get into them, that band was a couple dudes from Overcast i posted in my first post, the guitar player was in a band called Aftershock, Jesse leach was in Corrin and then howard and the drummer was in another CT band called Blood has been Shed.. Killswitch just didnt do it for me after any of those bands
honestly, if i had to pinpoint an album where "everything sounding the same" started, id probably pick this album, i remember it came out kind of late in the metalcore movement and before deathcore and all that blew up, i remember saying this sounds like literally every band of the last 5 years and its cool but getting a little old, production wise not much to me seems to have changed in the almost 20 years this came out