Bruce Egnater said FACK YA FEELINGS Randall Smith fanbois đź’€

Racerxrated said:
Let's not forget the 5150....Ed said to Hartley...."Here! Clone this...." and handed Peavey one of his 2 SLOs. Ed was pissed he had to actually buy the SLOs; most builders gave him free shit. Soldano couldn't afford to give amps away.
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Dick move on eddies part, there’s no reason he shouldn’t pay just cause he’s evh, especially to a smaller company like soldano. Eddie had to already be a multi gaziliionare by that time too. Ive read he was a massive asshole
 
PurityS.L.G said:
I wish someone would clone a Larry
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So far this all we got.
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And everyone is too scared to take a dremel to their larryboard to cut the weird metal box he tack welds around the board to further clone.

Which is probably one of the angles of the super long wait periods. Adds mystique and when guys get the amp they paid so much for they are afraid to look at it the wrong way. (Probably why ceriatone hasn't got ahold of one also)


Id take that stupid metal box right outta the amp and clone the fuck out of it and feel nothing 🤏


Someone send me their Larry and let's put this whole thing to rest đź’Ż I'll even tack weld the box back in there for ya. You'll never know it came off.
 
ChuggNorris said:
So far this all we got.
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And everyone is too scared to take a dremel to their larryboard to cut the weird metal box he tack welds around the board to further clone.

Which is probably one of the angles of the super long wait periods. Adds mystique and when guys get the amp they paid so much for they are afraid to look at it the wrong way. (Probably why ceriatone hasn't got ahold of one also)


Id take that stupid metal box right outta the amp and clone the fuck out of it and feel nothing 🤏


Someone send me their Larry and let's put this whole thing to rest đź’Ż I'll even tack weld the box back in there for ya. You'll never know it came off.
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Preach
 
Racerxrated said:
Marshall copied the 59 Fender Bassman. With some changes, however. The British players wanted Fenders but they were hard to get. So Marshall, who was a drummer and owned a Music store, hired a few radio tech grads (young dudes, 20 yrs old or so) and had them clone a Bassman. And it began......
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Fenders were hard to get too in Europe at that time. Great opportunity to step in a fill the void. And also help create some of the best rock tones we know.
 
ChuggNorris said:
So far this all we got.
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And everyone is too scared to take a dremel to their larryboard to cut the weird metal box he tack welds around the board to further clone.

Which is probably one of the angles of the super long wait periods. Adds mystique and when guys get the amp they paid so much for they are afraid to look at it the wrong way. (Probably why ceriatone hasn't got ahold of one also)


Id take that stupid metal box right outta the amp and clone the fuck out of it and feel nothing 🤏


Someone send me their Larry and let's put this whole thing to rest đź’Ż I'll even tack weld the box back in there for ya. You'll never know it came off.
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Be careful there. I've heard those metal boxed are rigged with high explosives set to go off if anyone tampers with them.

I also hear Larry has an army of lawyers across the globe ready to sue anyone who even thinks about looking at the inside of one of his amps. He'll even sue someone who lives down the road from a person thinking about looking at the inside of his amp.
 
The guitar amp market is saturated with decades of amps that were all copied from, inspired by, based on, etc…other circuits and amps. No one is building something 100% original from top to bottom. Despite that, you’ll notice that the vitriol typically gets directed at a certain smaller segment of builders/manufacturers.

Why? Success breeds contempt.
 
Racerxrated said:
Let's not forget the 5150....Ed said to Hartley...."Here! Clone this...." and handed Peavey one of his 2 SLOs. Ed was pissed he had to actually buy the SLOs; most builders gave him free shit. Soldano couldn't afford to give amps away.
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Pretty sure the "official" Peavey version of the story is EVH requested something based on his José or whatever, but he never actually gave them the amp, so James Brown learned that EVH dug the SLO, and based the 5150 off it.
 
I wish they'd be more specific as to what the DR copied off the SLO.

They say "preamp", but I'm pretty sure the tone stack is different. At least on Modern mode. So what do they mean by "preamp"?
 
PurityS.L.G said:
Preach
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I would really like to try a Larry, but everything that surrounds it and the absurd wait time; no thanks.

Had a Randall satan and really did not dig it. If that’s truly what that circuit was based around… I’m good. But from the ground zero clips the Satan sounded nothing like it, so who knows.

I think in general the amp copying game is always going to happen, and it’s not that big a deal. Especially in the vein of people copying amps of those who have passed, or just simply can’t deliver their product for whatever reason. One way or another even when someone is trying to really reinvent the wheel there’s always going to be similarities to another product.
 
Kelly said:
Lots of people say that, noone has ever proven it.
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Actually, if you do a little research... theres alot of evidence toward it. And we know RCA, GE, Western Electric did the original... leo made the amp with some changes....

Yeah pretty sure I'd bet on this one. đź‘Ś
 
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I don't know if this is true. From the Soldano Wikipedia page.

"Michael Soldano originally worked with technician Bill Sundt at Stars Guitars of San Francisco, modifying amps brought into the shop. Soldano built his first amp, a Fender Bassman clone, with the aid of books discarded by a library. He worked on modifying his version of the Bassman for several years before turning his attention to modifying Mesa/Boogie Mark Ils, which served as the inspiration for what became the Super Lead Overdrive (SLO) 100."
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Yes, his previous work on other amps and what he learned from doing that is what inspired his SLO design. Nowhere in that quote is it suggested that his SLO design was lifted from the Mk II, which it obviously wasn't. Topology is all different. Really, the DR being a direct copy of the SLO is such an obvious open-shut case, I'm not sure why anyone argues with it. Also, the fact that the SLO is obviously not derived from any kind of Boogies is equally clear just from examining the circuits/schematics.
 
fwiw...i remember taking my mark IV a/b transition to him to try and fix an issue at his shop in Berkley, Mi in the late 2000's just before he put out the tourmaster stuff, which IMO was competing with the boogie roadster/road king. He kinda looked at it a minute, and refused to work on it. told me to send it to boogie, which i did, and they fixed it. It was like in the same few month period where there word was he is only going to service his own amps. Like a lot of builders and techs, he has a strong opinion on Boogie, and i respect it coming from a guy of his caliber. it is what it is.
 
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