Bogner Snorkler 50 vs Friedman JJ

[hellzington]

After my last video checking out the new Snorkler 50 people asked if I could compare it to the JBE mode on my Friedman-modded Marshall. Ask and ye shall receive! Interested in your thoughts and opinions. Enjoy.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

So it's a Friedman JBE vs Bogner Snorkler. Not the Double J correct? I do like the Snorkler more during the Jam. Good video.

 

[hellzington]

So it's a Friedman JBE vs Bogner Snorkler. Not the Double J correct?

JBE is the Jerry Cantrell mode on the Double J

 

[angelspade]

I prefer the rawer, brighter attack and mid-forwardness of the Bogner here.

 

[Trevor]

Preferred the Bogner here, sounded richer more complex, appreciate the vid

 

[OldGtrGuy]

Would be tough to choose. Not sure how I feel about the "nasty" thing the Bogner has going on but I think it sounds better overall yet still very similar. Bump up the highs on the JJ.

My biggest takeaway is that a Bogner is brighter than something else

 

[hellzington]

Would be tough to choose. Not sure how I feel about the "nasty" thing the Bogner has going on but I think it sounds better overall yet still very similar. Bump up the highs on the JJ.

My biggest takeaway is that a Bogner is brighter than something else

Yeah, the Bogner is brighter with more presence. I probably could EQ the Friedman to sound more similar but that wasn't really the goal.

I'll tell you this as a YouTuber: video comparisons like this are only worth a certain amount. YouTube's compression is actually brutal on my well-crafted audio. It tends to make everything sound more uniform and it adds highs and lows while constricting midrange. I'd post files or something but I doubt many people would download them and listen to them through headphones or studio monitors.

TLDR - Take all YouTube audio with a GIANT grain of salt.

 

[Braciola]

Being a die hard Marshall lover, I have to say that the Snorkler is the closest Bogner I've heard as to what I'm looking for.
I love that Raw, Aggressive upper mid/ presence Kerrrang that a Marshall has.
The Helios was cool, but something about the voicing was a little off to me (maybe too much of that Bogner lower midrange still there)
The Snorkler sounds like it's leaner in the lower end and has even more Kerrrang than the Helios.
Definitely prefer it to the JJ in the video, but I never liked any Friedman due to their smoother, more "pleasing to the ear" character.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

JBE is the Jerry Cantrell mode on the Double J

I do like the rawness of the snorkeler, but I also dig the modded Marshall chewy sound so much.

 

[the4thlast1]

In the OP's clip the Snorkler reminds me alot of the 20th Shiva. It has that same wooly lowend and aggressive nature which can be cool for certain things. Though there is something about the attack of the lowend I dont care for, it has that out of control fuzzy thing. It's always give and take with this stuff and preferences. I had a JJ100 which I liked but it was pretty smooth and dark , didnt have alot of lowend and aggression.

 

[Simon Dorn]

After my last video checking out the new Snorkler 50 people asked if I could compare it to the JBE mode on my Friedman-modded Marshall. Ask and ye shall receive! Interested in your thoughts and opinions. Enjoy.

I like the Friedman Marshall more in this clip.

 

[Rising Farce]

How, and how much, does the Snorkler differ from the Helios? They seem pretty similar, tone-wise.

 

[skoora]

I think I like the unique character the Snorkler has. It’s a hard sound to pin down on describing it but I like how it’s got a wildness to it. So many modded Marshalls get more compressed and smoother ie. Boring. The Snorkler doesn’t sound boring.

 

[hellzington]

In the OP's clip the Snorkler reminds me alot of the 20th Shiva. It has that same wooly lowend and aggressive nature which can be cool for certain things. Though there is something about the attack of the lowend I dont care for, it has that out of control fuzzy thing. It's always give and take with this stuff and preferences. I had a JJ100 which I liked but it was pretty smooth and dark , didnt have alot of lowend and aggression.

Never had a Shiva but always wanted to check out a 20th. The low end isn't quite as wooly in the room as it is on the recording. I could have also lowered the depth. I did that in my original demo video I released last week. Most of that was recorded with the Depth at zero.

Snorkler definitely has this "wild" or "about to explode" thing going on with it.

 

[the4thlast1]

Never had a Shiva but always wanted to check out a 20th. The low end isn't quite as wooly in the room as it is on the recording. I could have also lowered the depth. I did that in my original demo video I released last week. Most of that was recorded with the Depth at zero.

Snorkler definitely has this "wild" or "about to explode" thing going on with it.

Yeah it’s hard to say how similar they are but from your clip that’s what I hear. 20th Shiva is also very mid heavy and aggressive sounding. The lowend has that out of control fuzzy thing. I think you would like it.

 

[hellzington]

How, and how much, does the Snorkler differ from the Helios? They seem pretty similar, tone-wise.

Nah pretty different. I used to own a Helios 100. The Snorkler has more gain and sounds more modern. It has an upper midrange notch with more treble content than the Helios. Helios has a bigger low end and more 70/80s thing going on. Helios is also cathode follower while Snorkler is plate driven.

 

[ST.KTULU]

Good video