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rsm said:
a public conversation. don't like free speech?
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Yall are testy lol. I wasn’t telling you to see your way out, just to read back to the beginning of it so it would make sense.

I asked about people taking away guns

PLX said you can’t take a gun away from someone that’s armed

I brought up the cop on the roof as what I thought would have been a seemingly obvious example of when you should try and take a gun away from someone

But you kinda ran with it without the context
 
Justin Bailey said:
Yall are testy lol. I wasn’t telling you to see your way out, just to read back to the beginning of it so it would make sense.

I asked about people taking away guns

PLX said you can’t take a gun away from someone that’s armed

I brought up the cop on the roof as what I thought would have been a seemingly obvious example of when you should try and take a gun away from someone

But you kinda ran with it without the context
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so you say; you may want to read my post about what the cop should have done when he found the shooter ( you know, his duty).

and my posts about taking a gun away from someone.

and my post about gun confiscation (i.e., taking guns away) in history.

My comments were all in context with the posts I quoted, too bad you missed it. reading with comprehension helps. 😘
 
Justin Bailey said:
Japetus gave me an example of the government taking away guns. I said it was interesting but seemed conditional. As in to me it seemed more about the condition that was happening and not directed at gun rights. I didn’t say if I thought it was right or wrong
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How can it not be directed at gun rights ? The government suspending your 2A rights is the definition of directed at gun rights. That's like saying the government could create a condition in one specific place where they deemed it legal to make black folks slaves for a week, but it isn't directed at civil rights because it's conditional.
 
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Floyd Eye said:
I don't think so. A guy with a gun going to a sniper hide and he was supposed to retreat ?
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His only other option was to get shot.

🤷‍♂️

They said dude got the drop on him when he crested the top of the ladder.
 
Arch Stanton said:
His only other option was to get shot.

🤷‍♂️

They said dude got the drop on him when he crested the top of the ladder.
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then take a few steps down out of sight; get your weapon ready, take a few steps up, and shoot the gunman with your weapon.

if he thought someone was on the roof, he should have had his weapon at the ready; I mean I'd expect a LEO to have training vs the shooter

If someone aims a firearm at me and doesn't fire, I will fire.

I thought only London Metropolitan Police ran away from criminals, looks like they runaway in PA too.
 
rsm said:
so you say; you may want to read my post about what the cop should have done when he found the shooter ( you know, his duty).

and my posts about taking a gun away from someone.

and my post about gun confiscation (i.e., taking guns away) in history.

My comments were all in context with the posts I quoted, too bad you missed it. reading with comprehension helps. 😘
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I’m not sure they are as relevant as you think they are
 
rsm said:
then take a few steps down out of sight; get your weapon ready, take a few steps up, and shoot the gunman with your weapon.

If someone aims a firearm at me and doesn't fire, I will fire.

I thought only London Metropolitan Police ran away from criminals, looks like they runaway in PA too.
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They should give you a badge, Floyd.

🦡
 
Floyd Eye said:
How can it not be directed at gun rights ? The government suspending your 2A rights is the definition of directed at gun rights. That's like saying the government could create a condition in one specific place where they deemed it legal to make black folks slaves for a week, but it isn't directed at civil rights because it's conditional.
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Correct if I’m wrong, I only read a few blurbs about it but it seems like Katrina happened, the government told everyone to get the fuck out until it’s safe and cleaned up.
Some people didn’t leave and then they tried to take the guns away from those very people.

Seems like if those people had evacuated, no one would have asked them for their guns. It was strictly conditional to them staying in an area of a national emergency that was supposed to be evacuated.

Again, I’m willing to be wrong about the circumstances of it
 
rsm said:
that's because you lack comprehension or are being purposely obtuse; we have a few around here.
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Dude I was trying to say that you can absolutely take a gun away from someone. We were saying the same thing. You went off on some tangents, sure, but were agreeing with me lol
 
Justin Bailey said:
Correct if I’m wrong, I only read a few blurbs about it but it seems like Katrina happened, the government told everyone to get the fuck out until it’s safe and cleaned up.
Some people didn’t leave and then they tried to take the guns away from those very people.

Seems like if those people had evacuated, no one would have asked them for their guns. It was strictly conditional to them staying in an area of a national emergency that was supposed to be evacuated.

Again, I’m willing to be wrong about the circumstances of it.
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They went door to door seizing guns. They didn't force people to leave. They can't force people to leave. Know why ? It's unconstitutional. So they took their guns.
 
Floyd Eye said:
They went door to door seizing guns. They didn't force people to leave. They can't force people to leave. Know why ? It's unconstitutional. So they took their guns.
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But if they left they wouldn’t have taken their guns though, right?
 
Justin Bailey said:
Correct if I’m wrong, I only read a few blurbs about it but it seems like Katrina happened, the government told everyone to get the fuck out until it’s safe and cleaned up.
Some people didn’t leave and then they tried to take the guns away from those very people.

Seems like if those people had evacuated, no one would have asked them for their guns. It was strictly conditional to them staying in an area of a national emergency that was supposed to be evacuated.

Again, I’m willing to be wrong about the circumstances of it
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short of declaring martial law, which they did not do during Katrina IIRC, they can't lawfully take citizens property including weapons as that is a violation of the Constitution (2A, 4A, and maybe more).

We have mandatory evacuations for hurricanes here; I left once, never again, and have stayed here during mandatory evacuations for a few hurricanes. They didn't go door to door like they did in Katrina, and they could have forced me to evacuate or arrested me; but not confiscated my property or firearms.
 
rsm said:
short of declaring martial law, which they did not do during Katrina IIRC, they can't lawfully take citizens property including weapons as that is a violation of the Constitution (2A, 4A, and maybe more).

We have mandatory evacuations for hurricanes here; I left once, never again, and have stayed here during mandatory evacuations for a few hurricanes. They didn't go door to door like they did in Katrina, and they could have forced me to evacuate or arrested me; but not confiscated my property or firearms.
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I’m not saying whether it was right or wrong to tell people to leave. I’m just saying it seemed to me that they only took things from people who didn’t leave.
That’s why I said it was conditional.
Not right. Not wrong.
But based on the condition of whether someone evacuated or not.
 
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