After watching the Charlie Starr LP Jr vid...

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...went looking to see how they were priced.
$1800 with a gator covered hard case.

So, riddle me this.
Why does a $4000 Suhr (and other big money builds) come with a gig bag instead of a hard case?

I have had the Suhr gig bag, and it did a decent job, but are people bitching because the hard case weight a few more pounds (and the storage room a hard case takes up.)
Or is it cost effective for a $4000+ guitar to come with a soft case over a Hardshell?
 
I always thought it was cheesy. I guess I have a problem with expensive bolt-ons. They’re friggin bolt-ons.

I was in Carter Vintage yesterday and the number of new relic’d guitars was stunning. Super expensive beat to fuck guitars for $4k…no thanks. I’m not sure how you could tell they were new. To me, they’re just beaters and I would only pay beater price for them.
 
And don’t Epiphones come with a case? The two Eastmans I’ve had came in really nice hard cases.
 
When I got my first three EBMM Kaizen 6, they came with a basic hard case. When they introduced new colors, I got one; it came with a custom Mono gig bag made for EBMM. It's very nice, but it's almost 3 times thicker than a hard case. I have limited space, and have a rack shelf I use for guitars that works great with hard cases, this gig bag takes as much room as 2.5 hard guitar cases,
 
Gig bags now are much nicer than the pieces of crap that came with most guitars 20 years ago. I can see why some players would prefer them, especially when I look at the dozen hard cases I've got that take up entirely too much space.

Still, at that price point, you should be able to choose either option.
 
You made my day!
Hadn't seen a price yet, I'll buy one as soon as I get the email.

I better get used to the 50's neck profile...
 
Gig bags now are much nicer than the pieces of crap that came with most guitars 20 years ago. I can see why some players would prefer them, especially when I look at the dozen hard cases I've got that take up entirely too much space.

Still, at that price point, you should be able to choose either option.
My Firebird case was about the size of a coffin.
 
I actually had a good conversation with an acoustic player about this once. There was a lot of good points and some science to back up his point that gig bags are better than hard cases. First, the psychological aspect of handling a guitar in a bag verses a hard case, but also the science behind it also.

A lot of us feel safe about our instruments in hard cases, and it makes us take risks that we wouldn't make with gig bags. I feel like I could throw my HSC down a flight of stairs, but science and statistics show my instruments would be just as likely, if not more likely to be damaged in hard cases than in gig bags. Most often, it's whiplash that snaps a headstock (already under tension from the strings) right off. Hard cases don't do much to stop the energy from an impact from going right into the instrument. A case could fall over from a standing position and create enough force to snap the headstock over. That's why more guitars snap in hard cases than in gig bags.

Now, some science. Gig bags are better for the same reason modern vehicles crumple like beer cans when they get in minor fender benders (Don't text and drive!). Padding absorbs the impact to prevent the energy from being transferred into the instrument. Of course, not all cases are created equal. Custom flight cases with form fit carved foam inserts will absorb impacts, where a cheap hard case with little more than wood and carpet has no give. Likewise, canvas bags might as well be garbage bags, where modern gig bags are like form fit pillows. The padding protects your guitar better than the shell. Best case has both.

On that note, some cases should be treated like bicycle helmets. If there is never an impact, it will last forever. Once the foam insert begins to deform, where strap buttons go into the foam, they should be replaced. If used properly, they only protect you for one crash. That's why my Spector cases need to be replaced.
 
...went looking to see how they were priced.
$1800 with a gator covered hard case.

So, riddle me this.
Why does a $4000 Suhr (and other big money builds) come with a gig bag instead of a hard case?

I have had the Suhr gig bag, and it did a decent job, but are people bitching because the hard case weight a few more pounds (and the storage room a hard case takes up.)
Or is it cost effective for a $4000+ guitar to come with a soft case over a Hardshell?
cuz J. Suhr is a cheep bastid >
 
Its funny to me that people will still say Gibson is expensive, meanwhile a lot of the companes that used to be "cheaper and better" have leapfrogged them in price. And they were never really "better" either.
 
Those mono bags are more money than a hard case. Think a buddy travels to gigs with those for ease of weight and portability

But Yeah, bolt on Suhr w/a bag is a cheap play.
I did buy a killer top Suhr Custom that would have come with a bag but Humbucker music cuts a deal for $100 for a Hardcase.

By the way,they are tax free on gear.
 
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