Any Diezel's in Nebraska , Kansas , Missori ??

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Id REALLY like to try a couple of Diezels amps . In particular , the VH4 . Im willing to drive if need be. Are there any out here in the midwest?
Im interested in them for personal use , but Ive also been in contact with Peter about becoming a dealer. I run a guitar shop and if there are folks around that are as curious as me , it may be in my best interest :thumbsup:
 
Hi Norton,

please send an email to:

peterstapfer (at) diezelamplification (dot) com

Thanks !
 
There is a place called Eddie's Music in the outskirts of St. Louis, MO. You should be able to try out the VH4 and Herbert there. You will need to pretend that you intend on buying from them, from this dealer, though, as their prices are rather steep. That's what I did, at least. You will not be in interested in any other amp in the room. I would just use them to try the amps out and go with Peter's recommendation on getting one direct from Germany or check out http://www.makenmusic.com/store.cfm. They sell the white tolex VH4s. Probably where I will get mine when I save up (they are in Chicago)!

Rather far, but if you do some research, I'm sure there is someplace closer. I drove to St. Louis- a three hour drive, but NEVER buy anything without trying it first.
 
I have bought a ton of gear from "Eddies" Why in the hell would you "pretend" like you were going to buy one from them only to order direct. The prices are really no different than anyone else, you are not going to get an amp cheaper buying direct to the best of my knowledge. The staff is a little picky, but if you are a straight shooter I would imagine they will treat you fair. I would not go in there and act like it is guitar center, because it most definitely is not GC. The guys have always been awesome to deal with, I hope they continue to sell Diezel amps. I like the fact that I can go down the street and check out the latest offering from high end amp companies.
 
Blackball you? Whatever... I thought you said some ignorant things in the op. The can of worms you opened is nothing more than a can of crap.

Aftermarket decals? What are you talking about? I have bought a guitar from them and there was nothing "aftermarket" about it. As a matter of fact I paid less for the guitar there than guitar center was asking. So you are saying Eddies sells Terry Hicks Specials? Or amps that are not actually new? You seem to be making some pretty serious accusations regarding "Eddies" and the products they sell. (no, i do not work there)

I am not sure where you are going with the "prosound store" comment. Prosound is owned by "Eddies" they do all of the amp repair for them.

Everyone knows that the Bogner shiva and the PT-50 are "overpriced shitty amps" :confused: Thats why Jerry Cantrell has used a Shiva in the past, because it is so shitty..

So you think they would rather sell you a $2700 or $3700 amp over a $4700 amp 14 month old amp that cannot be verified by Diezel. Oh, ok.... That makes sense. I would think they would really want to get rid of that 14 month old amp more than a new PT-50 or Shiva. :confused:

You are telling me that they have a VH4 tagged higher than $4700 in the store? I highly doubt that. That is the msrp set by Diezel, I see other dealers asking the EXACT same price for the head all over the web, just look around a little bit and you will see. And do you really think that is the price they will sell the amp for? Give me a break man, I paid nowhere near that amount for my VH4. I bet if you would have pulled out some money and started negotiations you would have found out that that you probably could have gotten the amp much cheaper, but you did not do that, you were just window shopping at that point. Right? (see next paragraph to confirm the "window shopping" comment)

In your last response you say you were ready to make a purchase on the VH4 when you went to "Eddies", but in your first post you said you will be buying your amp from makenmusic "AFTER YOU SAVE UP" I thought you had "FULL INTENTIONS OF MAKING A PURCHASE" when you went in to Eddies? Gimme a break dude! You are blowing smoke and are full of crap. You did not and still don't have the cash to buy the VH4.

You just busted yourself in a lie so why should anybody believe anything else you say. you say your a gearhead and pay attention to the details, maybe you should pay more attention to your own details that you choose to write down

If you did not like "Eddies guitars" that's fine, but to start making a bunch of slanderous statements against them is very lame. They probably picked up on the fact that you were NOT going to make a purchase and did not want to mess around with you. They keep the door locked and only see people by appointment at "Eddies" I highly doubt they are dying for more customers, especially customers like you.


Oh and the "Bullshit" you were knee deep in was obviously falling out of your own ass bro!
 
dabhopkins":3s4vr1ds said:
smdb":3s4vr1ds said:
I have bought a ton of gear from "Eddies" Why in the hell would you "pretend" like you were going to buy one from them only to order direct. The prices are really no different than anyone else, you are not going to get an amp cheaper buying direct to the best of my knowledge. The staff is a little picky, but if you are a straight shooter I would imagine they will treat you fair. I would not go in there and act like it is guitar center, because it most definitely is not GC. The guys have always been awesome to deal with, I hope they continue to sell Diezel amps. I like the fact that I can go down the street and check out the latest offering from high end amp companies.
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I had full intentions of making a purchase UNTIL I walked in the door of the place and took everything in- I'm a gearhead and I pay attention to details. BY THE WAY- THEY CONSTANTLY TRIED TO TELL ME NOT PLAY THE DIEZELS AND TO TRY THE CUSTOM AUDIO ELECTRONICS PT-50 AND THE BOGNER SHIVA. Talk about a couple of overpriced, shitty amps. The point is that I came in wanting to check out a few specific amps and they wanted to meet their dealer requirements for other amps and were pushing amps on me that I didn't want. Reminds me of Best Buy when you go in to buy one thing and they want to sell you something you don't want....

A) Because their guitars have aftermarket decals on the head stocks. Like...the kind that guys on E-Bay sell if you email them under the table....

B) Once again, play something before you buy it. Long story short, the VH4 they have is 14 months old despite their claim that it is brand new (Peter Stapfer had no data on who it shipped to but that it shipped in July of 2009- I would be worried about getting a Terry Hicks special), that they sell them all of the time, and that I should have bought it because it will be gone before I can go back....
Talk about straight shooting- I was knee deep in bullshit as soon as I walked in the door.

C) On one side of Eddie's is a pawn shop. On the other, a "pro sound" store. I went in to the "pro sound" store to kill some time and, sitting in the technician's area, is a seemingly new Mesa/Boogie Mark V that is taken apart and being worked on. This pro shop has nothing of the sort in their shop, but Eddie's does. I don't remember seeing Eddies' "brand new" Mark V anywhere when I was looking around....

D) Hmm. I can pay $4700 for a 14-month old VH4 or I can buy a REALLY brand new one, straight for Germany for $4300 (this is Peter Stapfer's quote- WITH custom tolex, btw- $3900 and then $400 for customs/shipping). Make n' Music has some in stock and they are asking $3850 plus tax as well and they are the REALLY new kind with black OR white tolex.

E) The prices on their website are not the same as the prices that are tagged when you are in the store (they are lower on the website- sounds like a gimmick to get you in the door and to put pressure on you when you are ready to buy).

I had full intentions of being a gentleman until you tried to blackball me. Then I had to open the can of worms on the place.
Like I said, do some research before you buy anything. If Eddie's will tell you $3900 out the door, go for it although that is a little steep for something that has been bouncing around for 14 months without a registered owner. Although they will probably want to ship you a box for $25 to save you money on tax....

They might have more customers if they lived in a more realistic world and didn't treat all of their clients like thieves. It's called insurance- GET IT and you can't ever take a true financial loss.

Come again! :)
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Hi.

I'm Brett, the salesmen that spent close to TWO HOURS with you while you were trying out amps.I don't have a problem with spending 2-hours with you at all, I enjoyed hanging out with you and your dad. What I do have a problem with, is you are slandering our store. Even after I spent a lot of time with you and your dad. I am honestly offended that you would say such things, especially after it seemed like we all left-off on such a positive note. I really did enjoy working with you guys. Where did I go wrong?

I made suggestions to you that I thought you would honestly like. We let you bring all kinds of gear into our store to try amps (Marshall 4x12 cab, several guitars, a rack-mounted system) and then let you spend two hours (read: TWO HOURS) of time in our back room to have a bona-fide, high-gain shoot-out. But like I said... It's what I do day in and day out. I truly (seriously!) enjoy my job and what I do.

I don't want to instigate an all-out onslaught on here, but I feel something should be said. Especially considering I have an excellent reputation on these forums (mainly on TGP and the MyLesPaul forum) to uphold.

I don't work on commission, I don't have "dealer requirements" with Bogner, or Suhr (I assure you, we are making them more than happy). We are an authorized dealer for EVERYTHING you see in the shop. If you thought something was a counter-fit, you thought wrong. We are dealers for LSL and Seuf... Maybe you seen one of those and thought it was fake? (HAHA, if that is the case, it was a real "fake" relic guitar).


What I am truly offended about is your claims about me being "pushy."
I was not even in the back room with you aside from initially setting those amps up for you (setting up, i.e.: moving the heads onto your cab and plugging everything up). I made suggestions for you, hooked you up and left the room so you could try them out. I didn't push you one way or another. I shot straight with you and told you my HONEST opinions about amps so I could help you make an educated purchase. At the time, it seemed like you were hesitant to spend $4,700 on an amp... So I showed you the Suhr, Bogner, Engl and various other things. IMO, YES, I think you can get the tones that you were looking for cheaper. Would that amp be as good as ________ ? That is for you to decide. Tones are subjective. It is YOUR money to spend my friend, I am solely here to assist you in your tone quest.

I also notice no mention of the things you did like (like the Engl Power-Ball that I suggested). I also noticed YOUR DAD posted a thread on the Marshall Forum and commented about how we were cool about helping you out (http://www.marshallforum.com/other-amps ... is-mo.html .....And I quote your dad "it should be noted that the staff were very professional, knowledgable and friendly."). I guess the "negative" things that he was mentioning is that we wouldn't sell you the VH4 as cheaply as you would of liked, and that we wouldn't give you BOTH the extremely discounted price you wanted and allow you to do a rather long lay-away on it.

ALSO, for the record I offered to SHIP YOU THE AMP and said that by doing this you would avoid the sales tax.

I gave you GREAT deals (I was giving a $1,000 off from MAP price on one particular piece...). I made good suggestions to you. I spent A LOT of time working with you to find something that would work for you, and in return this is how I am treated. NO dealer or salesperson with any kind of integrity is going to allow somebody to slander them on the internet without saying something in response.


Also, I would like to reiterate to the fact that Eddie doesn't have any idea that you have falsely accused us of selling fake merchandise on the internet. I know when he catches wind of this, it will not be taken lightly.







IF ANYBODY QUESTIONS MYSELF OR EDDIE'S GUITARS.
Feel free to talk a look around on TheGearPage or the MyLesPaul forum and freely talk to any of my happy customers. Here is my iTrader rating with TONS of deals through Eddie's Guitars on it. http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/itrader.php?u=1759

Here is my e-mail:
brett@eddiesguitars.com

Here is the number to call and talk to me (or anybody else) at the shop
314-781-7500





Thanks!
 
Brett did good by me in my dealings with him. Zero complaints. Anyone who uses a brick and mortar store to "test drive" gear that they intend to buy elsewhere is a DONG.
 
Screw you, dab. I bet you are just a bratty little kid who thinks he knows it all.

And don't bullshit on the net. We all know that if you had the cash for a Diezel, you'd probably already have pics up here. Twat.
 
dabhopkins":14ikg3bi said:
....They might have more customers if they lived in a more realistic world and didn't treat all of their clients like thieves.....
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I joined this forum solely to say this: I bought a Fender Esquire from Brett at Eddies, and have bought stuff from them in the past before Brett worked there. Brett gave me a swingin' deal on the Esquire, and he's a stand-up guy.
Dab, you're a dumbass. STFU and GTFO! (Do you know what that means?)

P.S. The reason they keep the door locked, is because there are a lot of 'undesirables' in the neighborhood. A fireman was shot and killed just a couple of years ago responding to a fire very near there by a crazed lunatic. Those kinds of people, and you, are the reason for the locked door.
 
dabhopkins":206gsq10 said:
...It's called insurance- GET IT and you can't ever take a true financial loss.

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I'd like to destroy this statement, but I don't understand what the heck you're talking about. Any more insight as to the insurance that you don't think Eddie's is carrying? :confused:



And, one more question. Does the word "band" imply more than one person? I never can get that right...
 
I also registered to stick up for Eddie's. Another happy Eddie's customer here. Specifically through Brett.

I'd buy from there again with no hesitation!

Ignore this dude Brett.
 
dennistruckdriver":11rzheud said:
dabhopkins":11rzheud said:
....They might have more customers if they lived in a more realistic world and didn't treat all of their clients like thieves.....
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I joined this forum solely to say this: I bought a Fender Esquire from Brett at Eddies, and have bought stuff from them in the past before Brett worked there. Brett gave me a swingin' deal on the Esquire, and he's a stand-up guy.
Dab, you're a dumbass. STFU and GTFO! (Do you know what that means?)

P.S. The reason they keep the door locked, is because there are a lot of 'undesirables' in the neighborhood. A fireman was shot and killed just a couple of years ago responding to a fire very near there by a crazed lunatic. Those kinds of people, and you, are the reason for the locked door.
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Dennis... It's been too long!

I remember this guy right here once offered me a ticket to Rev.Horton Heat. I wish I could of went with you!
 
As you can see, I am not interested in arguing on a forum about what has risen from my one, simple recommendation- life moves on. I am glad to see all of the heated debate and comments. I think it would serve the community if this thread were deleted- altogether- by a moderator, though.
 
Serve "the community?"

If you say so.



Any ideas as to the answer to my "band" question? Does it fall in to the category of "the Royal We?" Like... "a band of one?"

I figure we can all learn two things in this thread. One, Brett is a very honest and reasonable guy. Two....... "bands" have more than one person in them.

Good day.
 
dabhopkins":l6tf7vb3 said:
As you can see, I am not interested in arguing on a forum about what has risen from my one, simple recommendation- life moves on. I am glad to see all of the heated debate and comments. I think it would serve the community if this thread were deleted- altogether- by a moderator, though.
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I bet your not interested in taking this any further. You slandered a legit company and you lie. Grow up...
 
dabhopkins":n8hermtj said:
As you can see, I am not interested in arguing on a forum about what has risen from my one, simple recommendation- life moves on. I am glad to see all of the heated debate and comments. I think it would serve the community if this thread were deleted- altogether- by a moderator, though.
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Right.

You want it deleted because you look like an ass. I would apologize but, I really don't think it is my place considering you are in the wrong. Even your own father tells a drastically different story than you.

I also agree that a moderator should see what your posting up and have the thread removed. On most forums, you would be reprimanded for doing what you have done.



Then again...
Peter Diezel":n8hermtj said:
Hi Norton,

please send an email to:

peterstapfer (at) diezelamplification (dot) com

Thanks !
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Lets not forget this one...

dabhopkins":n8hermtj said:
I would just use them to try the amps out and go with Peter's recommendation on getting one direct from Germany
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It appears he is selling direct now and cutting out his dealers. What's up with this Peter? We have been a Diezel dealer for going on 8 years (read: EIGHT years) and you never even listed us in the dealers section of your website. Now that I understand the situation better, I am not surprised that we have been sitting on a VH4 for over a year. Is anybody?




I think his post should of went a little something like this... "Hey ________ has a VH4 in stock. Give them a call, here is their number."
 
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