Anyone using the stock modules and not the 'X' variant?

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I started taking my modules back to stock and I think I prefer it. Something about the upper mids that bothers me. I just can't play amps well with an obvious boost in the upper mids. I like em a little more mellow in the upper mids like the stock modules. The EG3/4 and SL2 still do a lot in stock form! Heck I can cover classic rock to modern rock with the EG3/4 in stock form. I know most see the EG3/4 as a smooth lead module but it does warm rhythm tones well even with high gain - very Bogner XTC, very Tool/ACP. Only thing I kept was the tight bass cap mod on the SL2.

I must be honest though, I have been considering giving up my clwean modules and using the SL in slot number one for clean to Plexi.
 
sumis":3hpfvmbf said:
i haven't modded my eg3/4. don't see any rason to do so.

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Are you using it for rhythm and lead? I have been for a while...
 
richedie":3t4yob2o said:
I started taking my modules back to stock and I think I prefer it. Something about the upper mids that bothers me. I just can't play amps well with an obvious boost in the upper mids. I like em a little more mellow in the upper mids like the stock modules. The EG3/4 and SL2 still do a lot in stock form! Heck I can cover classic rock to modern rock with the EG3/4 in stock form. I know most see the EG3/4 as a smooth lead module but it does warm rhythm tones well even with high gain - very Bogner XTC, very Tool/ACP. Only thing I kept was the tight bass cap mod on the SL2.

I must be honest though, I have been considering giving up my clwean modules and using the SL in slot number one for clean to Plexi.
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I think the 3/4x does Tool (10,000 days tone) way better than the stocker. Channel B and my homemade guitar with a nailbomb in the bridge can nail it.

I actually ended up liking the SL2 better stock, but the EG3/4x wayyy more than stock EG3/4. The 3/4 just didn't have enough hair on it for me. It was actually a little too smooth.
 
I use the BMAN and SL stock. Again, so no reason to change those two. The modded modules I use are SL2X and SL2 w/CUST 45 and HBE mods.

I also use the VX and EG5 stock but I don't know if there are mods for those or not. I don't think I'd mod them if their were. They do what they do very well.
 
I play blues/rock, and the EG4 and SL+ I have are stock...wouldn't change a thing...they sound great...
 
Yes I also like the SL2 better than the SL2X. I could not get along with that mod. I also think I prefer the EG3/4X, but I do not have the full mod. My tube board mod is a little more than half way between a stock EG3/4 and an EG3/4X. I use a 500pF cap there and the typical X has a 150pF. No biggie, I just turn the treble up if I need it. The bigger difference is the upper mid cap mod.

I think the SL2 and EG3/X and very close tonally. So close I am debating whether to keep both.

I also know I can get a stock module sounding like the X mod and vice versa.
 
richedie":1woqql96 said:
sumis":1woqql96 said:
i haven't modded my eg3/4. don't see any rason to do so.

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Are you using it for rhythm and lead? I have been for a while...
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eg3 for rhythm and with a boost for solos. eg4 less often for rhythm, depends on the situation/music.

i use an eg5 when playing modern hi gain metal. but i'm not 100% happy ... which has more to do with me not being that fond of contemporary tight übergain, than with the eg5 (the hbe module seems to be the bomb though).

i wouldn't want to change the eg3/4 to accomodate more 'modern' applications though ... but since i haven't tried the eg3/4x, i'm open for the possibility of liking it.

i use the eg3/4 with a very clear sounding guitar, and don't really want more bite. using mature gain levels on the eg3/4 gives me all the clarity i wan't. if i need more gain, i use something else. (not that i'm playing it clean ;) )

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I'm sure you all realise the "X" mod simply adds some upper mid/high end and cuts the bass at the front end for a tighter feel, right? It is not some magical thing that makes all modules better. Understand that certain modules have their sound for a target application. For example, one thing the EG3/4 does nicely is a smooth, dark tone (EJ, Holdsworth, etc.). Not that is doesn't do other stuff, but this was the original idea. Modifying it to be tighter or brighter is fine but you are making it more like EG5 or SL2 when you remove the smooth high end. I'm certainly not saying anything bad about modifying them, just that when you make major mods, it is no longer that module. Please be sure to label your modified modules as "not stock" so others know later on.
 
Bruce is right...the EG3/4X becomes much like the SL2 with the cut. I hated the SL2X - harsh.
I might go back to the EG3/4 stock again to see if I can pull off rhythm with it. We play similar to APC, AIC and STP and was worried it might be too dark. The EG3/4X does get rid of some of that nice smooth lead tone....but with the Mod 50 I can't designate one module for lead only. I need it to do rhythm and lead.
 
I also agree with Bruce about advertising mods on sales,even if it is stock and you stuck a soldering iron in it :thumbsup:
 
On the EG3/4X the biggest effect is the upper mid cap. The tube board cap just makes it bright so you can just run the treble lower to get stock tone.
 
I actually ended up liking the SL2 better stock, but the EG3/4x wayyy more than stock EG3/4. The 3/4 just didn't have enough hair on it for me. It was actually a little too smooth
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Tonight I set up the SL2 and the EG3/4X in the Mod 50 to see if I could get them close. I was able to get the two almost identical with enough tweaking to the point I could not tell which was which. So, I say....do I make the SL2 back into an SL2X? I thought that one was too bright and harsh to my ears. I like dark and smooth as Bruce mentioned. The stock SL2 is perfect and can do everything the EG3/4X can to my ears.

I might put the EG3/4X back to stock to see if that gives me more variety...otherwise one will be sold. I can get either sounding VERY Bogner XTC-ish.

My EG3/4X did not have any sort of tight bass mod. Only my SL2 had that.
 
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