Are The Scorpions and/or Uli John Roth Overrated?

VonBonfire said:
My friend @JohnnyGtar turned me on to that album this week. Frank has some amazing clean technique and can get around a fretboard very quickly!!!
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Yep. And when I listen to that clean technique and some of his particular licks, I can hear the influence he had on a young guy that would go on to become the cleanest, Paul Gilbert.
 
tallcoolone said:
Uli wasn’t with them then was he? I saw that up in Maine when I was in HS—June and it was 40 degrees and pouring rain. Scorps were great, but I don’t recall Uli being a part
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Nope mathies (sp) was with them. Klaus has a killer voice. I put him near dio….near… not dio level though…
 
SoooRad said:
I’m not familiar enough with his work, but the stuff I’ve heard is definitely cool. The Frank Marino cult comparison thing is funny. That cult is totally justified. Even if he had just recorded the Juggernaut album, that would have locked him in forever.
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I had the honor of a lifetime speaking to Mr Marino on the phone a few days ago. Salt of the earth. Just the most humble and down to earth man. And to think he actually took time to speak to a complete stranger. What an honor that I will never forget…..
 
JackBootedThug said:
I had the honor of a lifetime speaking to Mr Marino on the phone a few days ago. Salt of the earth. Just the most humble and down to earth man. And to think he actually took time to speak to a complete stranger. What an honor that I will never forget…..
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Awesome!!!
 
JackBootedThug said:
I had the honor of a lifetime speaking to Mr Marino on the phone a few days ago. Salt of the earth. Just the most humble and down to earth man. And to think he actually took time to speak to a complete stranger. What an honor that I will never forget…..
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He’s on the list of my favorite players . I love his 70s and early 80s discography . Later in his career his Real Live album and Live At The Agora DVD are mind blowing
 
hammered said:
He’s on the list of my favorite players . I love his 70s and early 80s discography . Later in his career his Real Live album and Live At The Agora DVD are mind blowing
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I knew who he was and he was a beast. Since speaking to him I have went on a deep dive and he is the first shredder imo. He can do it all…and do it well…. The 3 singles in a sg is pretty sweet… Gibson scale and string tension works for me better than 25.5” scale…
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Jabs is the king of the lead break between verses, he's an incredibly musical player and a guy who writes lead breaks that aren't difficult, but that are memorable because you can sing them. So it begs the question, what are we talking about here? Do you want technical playing? Are you looking for precise picking patterns and sweeps or are you thinking of the music? There is no question the Scorpions are right where they should be where reputation is concerned. I think they died out substantially after the Tease Me Please Me / Wind's of Change album but were a force in the 80's.

Uli is definitely as good as people say he is. He's a special type of player who has never really cared what anyone thinks of him or his music. Great vibrato, great sense of melody, quirky playing at times but the whole thing works. Going to see him is like having some sort of weird cosmic experience because of all the visual stuff he has and how he dresses and plays. There is also zero doubt that he influenced Malmsteen. I think for being "1st" in his genre and touching on the neoclassical thing in a rock context, you can't take anything away from the guy. I really like his writing with the Scorps. There is some great stuff there and awesome tone for the time period. Again, how do you judge guitar players. Solely by their technical skill?
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just don’t let that guy get near a vocal mic.

i’d rather hear rosie and whoopie belt out a duet of the chinese national anthem than uli’s barney the dinosaur-esque crooning of hellcat or cast away your chains

 
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