avatar cabs whats the skinny?

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dude , are they built well? why so low priced? 529. + 68 shipping? g12k100s......anyone do tell
 
In a nutshell:

Great bang for the buck.
Cheaper because they don't advertise at all, hence, savings passed on to you.
 
I love mine:

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Figured I would post what I put in my pm reply to you....

The construction is great. Easily hangs with the Marshall, Bogner, Diezel, ENGL, Mesa etc cabs I have owned.


You should call Dave at Avatar and ask him what you want to know.....he is very easy to deal with and knows hit stuff.

T



For the record, I own 2 Vintage 4x12's loaded with G12K-100's and could not be happier :rock:
 
cujo":2o50q85o said:
why so cheap priced?

as Nick said above they don't advertise, plus theres no middleman and they aren't trying to sell a brand name. (some amp manufacturers outsource their cabinet manufacturing from other company's and then charge a premium when you can buy the exact same cab with a different name on it for much cheaper).

that being said, I have quite a few cabs ranging from Voodoo to Marshall to Mesa to Avatar. Honestly I have no problems with the Avatar cab that I have. The build quality is superb.

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Avatar is a good value cab. I mean does it sound as good as some of the better sounding cabs? meh, not necessarily, there will be a difference, but they get the job done just fine. I mean its pretty streamlined cab, nothing super fancy, which saves money on your end. I had one for a bit and it was plenty fine, I would buy another one. Actually since then they came out with some more styles, deeper cabs.

lots of people have used and or sporting an avatar cab, good company and easy to work with
 
:rock: I have an *OLD* Avatar 4x12 from around 2001. Carpet covered, steel mesh grill, bullet proof after all these years. The construction is great. My old group bought 3 of them years ago, about 65 bucks each. We loaded each with different speaks for different needs. I'm currently running Jensen Mod 35's in mine. Sounds great! The new ones are probably even better.
 
I use my avatar for gigs & rehearsals all the time. I would have to disagree that it sounds as good as Mesa or Bogner, the wood & built quality seems to be not as good in my experience, but it's definitely not enough difference to worry about for a gig or practice & you can roll it, hit it & whatever, without worrying about the $$$. I'd recommend it to a friend.
 
Here's what I wonder if it boils down to. A brand name. Countless Marshall n Mesa cabs on stage more than any other. Its like saying a harley is better rhy because of a name tag. In my own experiences my japanese bikes had way less problems. Has any of you opened an avatar up n checked it out? What makes it same worse or better than others. What does duezel of bogner do so different? Ice been looking at stoneage cabs they are built like old marshalls. The hunt continues but I did play a cool Marshall loaded w v30x g12h x pattern it was awesome.
 
Cheapy corner covers, and input panel, wiring isn't the best, some unfinished cuts on the inside.

In short, the *do* cut a few corners to sell them cheap.

If you don't mind a little work when you get it its worth it. I've got a closed back, and have sealed it properly, installed a better gauge of wire, and generally tightened it up overall. It's a great cab.
 
baron55":hbh1142q said:
bsp01":hbh1142q said:
Cheapy corner covers, and input panel, wiring isn't the best, some unfinished cuts on the inside.

In short, the *do* cut a few corners to sell them cheap.

If you don't mind a little work when you get it its worth it. I've got a closed back, and have sealed it properly, installed a better gauge of wire, and generally tightened it up overall. It's a great cab.


Stange, I have never experienced this on the Avatar cabs I own, which model are you referring to.

BTW Avatar doesn't build their cabs.


True.

I was told by Dave Avatar that his vintage cabs come from the same supplier as Bogners.
 
bsp01":2e8lklwv said:
Cheapy corner covers, and input panel, wiring isn't the best, some unfinished cuts on the inside.

In short, the *do* cut a few corners to sell them cheap.

If you don't mind a little work when you get it its worth it. I've got a closed back, and have sealed it properly, installed a better gauge of wire, and generally tightened it up overall. It's a great cab.

That is what I noticed with the Avatar contemporary cab my buddy has. I helped him install the speaker in the 112 cab, so I got a chance to check it out. It was built okay, but did not look as solid as a mesa or bogner cab (only seen pictures of the inside of a bogner cab.

I still think avatar is a good value, and the cab sounds good. But I do think you get more by stepping up to Bogner or a boutique cab builder.
 
headlessdeadguy":1mhk7o73 said:
baron55":1mhk7o73 said:
bsp01":1mhk7o73 said:
Cheapy corner covers, and input panel, wiring isn't the best, some unfinished cuts on the inside.

In short, the *do* cut a few corners to sell them cheap.

If you don't mind a little work when you get it its worth it. I've got a closed back, and have sealed it properly, installed a better gauge of wire, and generally tightened it up overall. It's a great cab.


Stange, I have never experienced this on the Avatar cabs I own, which model are you referring to.

BTW Avatar doesn't build their cabs.


True.

I was told by Dave Avatar that his vintage cabs come from the same supplier as Bogners.



This.


I stand by my statement that the Vintage cabs hang with anything I have owned. In fact, I held on to my last Diezel and Voodoo (that is Voodoo Amps, not Blue Voodoo :D ) cabs for a good while to make sure it wasn't a honeymoon thing.


Those are great cabs, but I don't feel like I am giving up anythign using my Avatar Vintage cabs.
 
baron55":1okpt915 said:
bsp01":1okpt915 said:
Cheapy corner covers, and input panel, wiring isn't the best, some unfinished cuts on the inside.

In short, the *do* cut a few corners to sell them cheap.

If you don't mind a little work when you get it its worth it. I've got a closed back, and have sealed it properly, installed a better gauge of wire, and generally tightened it up overall. It's a great cab.


Stange, I have never experienced this on the Avatar cabs I own, which model are you referring to.

BTW Avatar doesn't build their cabs.

I've worked a 4x12 a guy bought, and I own 2, 2x12 Custom cabs from Avatar. I'm not saying they're bad, but with a little work can be great. As is they're good for the price.
 
bsp01":3m3jqsvd said:
Cheapy corner covers, and input panel, wiring isn't the best, some unfinished cuts on the inside.

In short, the *do* cut a few corners to sell them cheap.

If you don't mind a little work when you get it its worth it. I've got a closed back, and have sealed it properly, installed a better gauge of wire, and generally tightened it up overall. It's a great cab.

The one I had a while back had some pretty heavy duty looking metal corner guards on there, but it was an older cab, I haven't seen a brand new one lately. I can say that I sold my marshall cab loaded with V30s and kept the Avatar(Eminence Legends), not because it was a better cab or necessarily sounded better but I knew I could get more for the marshall than the avatar. It was a money thing, I needed some quick cash at the time and I didn't feel like I was losing a lot soundwise letting go of the marshall, and the Avatar served me well. I guess the point is, IMO they're great for the money but if you want to get rid of it I don't think it would be a quick sale on the used market. I had a hard time getting $300 out of mine so I had to settle for a trade :doh: To be fair I can also say that I had a VHT FB412 that blew it out of the water. That's the only cab I really regret getting rid of :cry:
 
I can't stand the 2x12 Vintage cab...........hollow, punchless, and thin. And it wasn't a bad one since I have had 2 of them. But I also feel the same way about the Mojo oversized 2x12 (basically the same thing) even though I own one because it works great for clean sounds. Just don't plan on hitting it with loud overdrive/distortion because its a mess.

The Contemporary 2x12 is another story. I prefer it over many high end 2x12 cabs I have owned (VHT FB, Orange, Engl, Splawn). Great deal at any cost on this cab IMO.
 
I have an old one (212) that used to be carpet covered w/ metal grill, plastic corners, etc. I love it and use it as my main cab. I think I paid about $100 for it brand new, and put my own speakers in it.

I recently recovered it in tolex and put on metal corners and a new fabric grill. Now I love it even more.
 
cujo":18iskpj2 said:
Here's what I wonder if it boils down to. A brand name. Countless Marshall n Mesa cabs on stage more than any other. Its like saying a harley is better rhy because of a name tag. In my own experiences my japanese bikes had way less problems. Has any of you opened an avatar up n checked it out? What makes it same worse or better than others. What does duezel of bogner do so different? Ice been looking at stoneage cabs they are built like old marshalls. The hunt continues but I did play a cool Marshall loaded w v30x g12h x pattern it was awesome.


see,...you try to make a point,..and make the same mistake while your pointing out!

"my jap bike is better than a harley cuz it never brakes down",....

"my les paul clone is better than a gibson,..cuz we all know gibson quality control sucks"
 
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