Best Speaker For Silver Jubilee 2554 Open-Back Combo?

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The Marshall Vintage 30 speaker sounds good, but I'd like to have a bit more clarity. This amp has more gain than my 2550 had, which I'm told is common with the made for Canada SJ amps. I don't now if this is true, as I've only owned two SJ amplifiers. A EVM 12L would do it, but that's too heavy of a speaker. I generally run the preamp between 4-6, which gives me all the gain I need, without too much saturation. There's still a bit of "hair" in there that I'd like to get rid of. What do you guys think? Is this the nature of the amp, or can an alternate speaker clear things up?
 
Goat":22ubw4wd said:
The Marshall Vintage 30 speaker sounds good, but I'd like to have a bit more clarity. This amp has more gain than my 2550 had, which I'm told is common with the made for Canada SJ amps. I don't now if this is true, as I've only owned two SJ amplifiers. A EVM 12L would do it, but that's too heavy of a speaker. I generally run the preamp between 4-6, which gives me all the gain I need, without too much saturation. There's still a bit of "hair" in there that I'd like to get rid of. What do you guys think? Is this the nature of the amp, or can an alternate speaker clear things up?

Have you tried an EQ pedal?
 
sutepaj":1ybc3p84 said:
Goat":1ybc3p84 said:
The Marshall Vintage 30 speaker sounds good, but I'd like to have a bit more clarity. This amp has more gain than my 2550 had, which I'm told is common with the made for Canada SJ amps. I don't now if this is true, as I've only owned two SJ amplifiers. A EVM 12L would do it, but that's too heavy of a speaker. I generally run the preamp between 4-6, which gives me all the gain I need, without too much saturation. There's still a bit of "hair" in there that I'd like to get rid of. What do you guys think? Is this the nature of the amp, or can an alternate speaker clear things up?

Have you tried an EQ pedal?
I have a Rockman EQ half-rack deal, which I suppose I could use in-front of the amp. I was using it in the loop of the 2550, along with a Rockman echo for some slap-back. I haven't been using it with the 2554, as I want to get the best dry sound; before using any effects.
 
Goat":1htxld3a said:
sutepaj":1htxld3a said:
Goat":1htxld3a said:
The Marshall Vintage 30 speaker sounds good, but I'd like to have a bit more clarity. This amp has more gain than my 2550 had, which I'm told is common with the made for Canada SJ amps. I don't now if this is true, as I've only owned two SJ amplifiers. A EVM 12L would do it, but that's too heavy of a speaker. I generally run the preamp between 4-6, which gives me all the gain I need, without too much saturation. There's still a bit of "hair" in there that I'd like to get rid of. What do you guys think? Is this the nature of the amp, or can an alternate speaker clear things up?

Have you tried an EQ pedal?
I have a Rockman EQ half-rack deal, which I suppose I could use in-front of the amp. I was using it in the loop of the 2550, along with a Rockman echo for some slap-back. I haven't been using it with the 2554, as I want to get the best dry sound; before using any effects.

Gotcha. Yeah give it a shot. I always try an EQ first before changing anything, it can be easy to dial out or add in some frequencies to get you where you want to be.
 
I just traded that same exact model jubilee 2554 combo (Canadian as well). I really liked the v30 in it. Thought it worked very well with the Jubilee’s voicing. For what you’re describing I’d recommend a Fane F90. It’s also on the heavy side, but not as much as EV’s. The F90 sounds very big and defined. It’s kinda like a middle ground of EV and Celestion in terms of sound. More neutral/smoother/flatter eq than Celestion, but not as much as EV’s which I find to be sterile and don’t like as much

Hard to say though if a speaker change will really be the answer or not. I found I got more clarity just by running it through one of my 412’s. It may be worth trying different tubes or pickups before going with a new speaker. Other guys here can probably give good tube recommendations to try out. That’s not my forte
 
braintheory":2u9960s5 said:
I just traded that same exact model jubilee 2554 combo (Canadian as well). I really liked the v30 in it. Thought it worked very well with the Jubilee’s voicing. For what you’re describing I’d recommend a Fane F90. It’s also on the heavy side, but not as much as EV’s. The F90 sounds very big and defined. It’s kinda like a middle ground of EV and Celestion in terms of sound. More neutral/smoother/flatter eq than Celestion, but not as much as EV’s which I find to be sterile and don’t like as much

Hard to say though if a speaker change will really be the answer or not. I found I got more clarity just by running it through one of my 412’s. It may be worth trying different tubes or pickups before going with a new speaker. Other guys here can probably give good tube recommendations to try out. That’s not my forte
Thanks! I also have a 4x12 SJ cabinet with UK G12-T75's, but I don't use it. I'm trying to get away from using a large rig, and I really dig the sound of a single 12" speaker. I might try hitting the front with a Centura pedal, but I like to keep the 'red mode' clear of boost pedals. Maybe a lower powered PI tube? Just trying to think of other possibilities...
 
Goat":u1nrygss said:
braintheory":u1nrygss said:
I just traded that same exact model jubilee 2554 combo (Canadian as well). I really liked the v30 in it. Thought it worked very well with the Jubilee’s voicing. For what you’re describing I’d recommend a Fane F90. It’s also on the heavy side, but not as much as EV’s. The F90 sounds very big and defined. It’s kinda like a middle ground of EV and Celestion in terms of sound. More neutral/smoother/flatter eq than Celestion, but not as much as EV’s which I find to be sterile and don’t like as much

Hard to say though if a speaker change will really be the answer or not. I found I got more clarity just by running it through one of my 412’s. It may be worth trying different tubes or pickups before going with a new speaker. Other guys here can probably give good tube recommendations to try out. That’s not my forte
Thanks! I also have a 4x12 SJ cabinet with UK G12-T75's, but I don't use it. I'm trying to get away from using a large rig, and I really dig the sound of a single 12" speaker. I might try hitting the front with a Centura pedal, but I like to keep the 'red mode' clear of boost pedals. Maybe a lower powered PI tube? Just trying to think of other possibilities...
I boosted my 2554 with an original Klon Centaur silver and it worked amazing with it, so the Centura should also work well. If that doesn’t do it though, I’d think tubes or different pickups would be the first place to start
 
braintheory":3jj2i1k8 said:
Goat":3jj2i1k8 said:
braintheory":3jj2i1k8 said:
I just traded that same exact model jubilee 2554 combo (Canadian as well). I really liked the v30 in it. Thought it worked very well with the Jubilee’s voicing. For what you’re describing I’d recommend a Fane F90. It’s also on the heavy side, but not as much as EV’s. The F90 sounds very big and defined. It’s kinda like a middle ground of EV and Celestion in terms of sound. More neutral/smoother/flatter eq than Celestion, but not as much as EV’s which I find to be sterile and don’t like as much

Hard to say though if a speaker change will really be the answer or not. I found I got more clarity just by running it through one of my 412’s. It may be worth trying different tubes or pickups before going with a new speaker. Other guys here can probably give good tube recommendations to try out. That’s not my forte
Thanks! I also have a 4x12 SJ cabinet with UK G12-T75's, but I don't use it. I'm trying to get away from using a large rig, and I really dig the sound of a single 12" speaker. I might try hitting the front with a Centura pedal, but I like to keep the 'red mode' clear of boost pedals. Maybe a lower powered PI tube? Just trying to think of other possibilities...
I boosted my 2554 with an original Klon Centaur silver and it worked amazing with it, so the Centura should also work well. If that doesn’t do it though, I’d think tubes or different pickups would be the first place to start
I'll try the Centura tonight. I installed the correct OEM replacement diodes in the Centura, and I'm anxious to try it out.
 
G12 65s for me. Although I do like the 8ohm Marshall vintages as well. I think though for more clarity(I find the clarity good enough for what I want out of it) I'd look for a more neutral speaker, maybe a G12 K100 or 85? EV would be perfect but as you say damn heavy. I boost mine (I'm on my 4th 2554 lol) with anything from a Boss GE10, Fish n Chips EQ, SD1, OD1X to a TC 1140. All work great and offer a nice changeup in tone.
 
Racerxrated":2m4s2dal said:
G12 65s for me. Although I do like the 8ohm Marshall vintages as well. I think though for more clarity(I find the clarity good enough for what I want out of it) I'd look for a more neutral speaker, maybe a G12 K100 or 85? EV would be perfect but as you say damn heavy. I boost mine (I'm on my 4th 2554 lol) with anything from a Boss GE10, Fish n Chips EQ, SD1, OD1X to a TC 1140. All work great and offer a nice changeup in tone.
Nothing holds together like an EVM. Fuck-it, I may put one in anyway. I've never tried a Marshall through an EVM... If it sounds as clear through a Marshall as it does a Boogie, I'm in.

Damn! 4th 2554... Why so many? If you say; It's so bad-ass, I just had to have more... I get it. :yes:
 
Goat":365u7qg9 said:
Racerxrated":365u7qg9 said:
G12 65s for me. Although I do like the 8ohm Marshall vintages as well. I think though for more clarity(I find the clarity good enough for what I want out of it) I'd look for a more neutral speaker, maybe a G12 K100 or 85? EV would be perfect but as you say damn heavy. I boost mine (I'm on my 4th 2554 lol) with anything from a Boss GE10, Fish n Chips EQ, SD1, OD1X to a TC 1140. All work great and offer a nice changeup in tone.
Nothing holds together like an EVM. Fuck-it, I may put one in anyway. I've never tried a Marshall through an EVM... If it sounds as clear through a Marshall as it does a Boogie, I'm in.

Damn! 4th 2554... Why so many? If you say; It's so bad-ass, I just had to have more... I get it. :yes:
I had a magical one, a black tolex 88 back about 10 yrs ago. GAS hits and I sell it, looking for something else...rinse/repeat. Lol. I've had all version of the Jubilees and the 2554 is my favorite. I'll be keeping this one. At this point I kinda feel I've had em all and are settling down on my current collection..the only amp that intrigues me now is maybe a 67-68 real Plexi. I just grabbed a great condition 72 SuperTrem and it screams..totally stock. Love it. But those real deal Plexis are C+ Coliseum money. And I ain't selling mine.
:D
 
Goat":x2bfampv said:
Racerxrated":x2bfampv said:
G12 65s for me. Although I do like the 8ohm Marshall vintages as well. I think though for more clarity(I find the clarity good enough for what I want out of it) I'd look for a more neutral speaker, maybe a G12 K100 or 85? EV would be perfect but as you say damn heavy. I boost mine (I'm on my 4th 2554 lol) with anything from a Boss GE10, Fish n Chips EQ, SD1, OD1X to a TC 1140. All work great and offer a nice changeup in tone.
Nothing holds together like an EVM. Fuck-it, I may put one in anyway. I've never tried a Marshall through an EVM... If it sounds as clear through a Marshall as it does a Boogie, I'm in.

Damn! 4th 2554... Why so many? If you say; It's so bad-ass, I just had to have more... I get it. :yes:
I’ve done a direct comparison with a G12 K100 & Fane F90 both isolated (not in a cab) and in the same cab and would say the F90 has more clarity and moves more air. The K100 though has more of that Celestion midrange thing that I like, the F90 is flatter. It’s been a while since I last tried anything with an EV in it, but wouldn’t surprise me if the F90 held it its own clairity wise. The older Celestion’s like the RIC Creambacks and Vented T75’s are still my favorites, but for just clarity and punch I think the F90 probably beats any Celestion I’ve tried so far. They seem kinda like the Wizard amp of speakers
 
Racerxrated":2aphwkn4 said:
Goat":2aphwkn4 said:
Racerxrated":2aphwkn4 said:
G12 65s for me. Although I do like the 8ohm Marshall vintages as well. I think though for more clarity(I find the clarity good enough for what I want out of it) I'd look for a more neutral speaker, maybe a G12 K100 or 85? EV would be perfect but as you say damn heavy. I boost mine (I'm on my 4th 2554 lol) with anything from a Boss GE10, Fish n Chips EQ, SD1, OD1X to a TC 1140. All work great and offer a nice changeup in tone.
Nothing holds together like an EVM. Fuck-it, I may put one in anyway. I've never tried a Marshall through an EVM... If it sounds as clear through a Marshall as it does a Boogie, I'm in.

Damn! 4th 2554... Why so many? If you say; It's so bad-ass, I just had to have more... I get it. :yes:
I had a magical one, a black tolex 88 back about 10 yrs ago. GAS hits and I sell it, looking for something else...rinse/repeat. Lol. I've had all version of the Jubilees and the 2554 is my favorite. I'll be keeping this one. At this point I kinda feel I've had em all and are settling down on my current collection..the only amp that intrigues me now is maybe a 67-68 real Plexi. I just grabbed a great condition 72 SuperTrem and it screams..totally stock. Love it. But those real deal Plexis are C+ Coliseum money. And I ain't selling mine.
:D
I kick myself often for selling my '72 Super Lead heads. I was told they once belonged to Allen Collins, but I couldn't confirm. The owner said that his dad purchased them from one of the original guitarists in Molly Hatchet. I won't say how much I sold them for... :aww:

Riff West was a friend of mine, but I never got a chance to confirm their history with him.

I'm the same... The only other amplifiers I'm interested in these days is Marshall JMP, Matchless HC30, and VOX AC30 Heritage head.
 
Goat":9i7ioih7 said:
Racerxrated":9i7ioih7 said:
Goat":9i7ioih7 said:
Racerxrated":9i7ioih7 said:
G12 65s for me. Although I do like the 8ohm Marshall vintages as well. I think though for more clarity(I find the clarity good enough for what I want out of it) I'd look for a more neutral speaker, maybe a G12 K100 or 85? EV would be perfect but as you say damn heavy. I boost mine (I'm on my 4th 2554 lol) with anything from a Boss GE10, Fish n Chips EQ, SD1, OD1X to a TC 1140. All work great and offer a nice changeup in tone.
Nothing holds together like an EVM. Fuck-it, I may put one in anyway. I've never tried a Marshall through an EVM... If it sounds as clear through a Marshall as it does a Boogie, I'm in.

Damn! 4th 2554... Why so many? If you say; It's so bad-ass, I just had to have more... I get it. :yes:
I had a magical one, a black tolex 88 back about 10 yrs ago. GAS hits and I sell it, looking for something else...rinse/repeat. Lol. I've had all version of the Jubilees and the 2554 is my favorite. I'll be keeping this one. At this point I kinda feel I've had em all and are settling down on my current collection..the only amp that intrigues me now is maybe a 67-68 real Plexi. I just grabbed a great condition 72 SuperTrem and it screams..totally stock. Love it. But those real deal Plexis are C+ Coliseum money. And I ain't selling mine.
:D
I kick myself often for selling my '72 Super Lead heads. I was told they once belonged to Allen Collins, but I couldn't confirm. The owner said that his dad purchased them from one of the original guitarists in Molly Hatchet. I won't say how much I sold them for... :aww:

Riff West was a friend of mine, but I never got a chance to confirm their history with him.

I'm the same... The only other amplifiers I'm interested in these days is Marshall JMP, Matchless HC30, and VOX AC30 Heritage head.
For me, the only amps left on my radar are just a late ‘60’s Plexi, Dover and Tim Schroeder. If I had the money I’d also say Dumble and Trainwreck, but that will probably never happen

For what it’s worth, I’d highly recommend saving up for an early ‘60’s Copperpanel AC30. There’s nothing else like it. It’s the most warm and organic sounding amp I’ve ever owned and just beautiful tone. Almost every other amp I have sounds comparatively ear fatiguing and almost brittle, yet the vox is still one of the brighter sounding amps I have. IMO you’ll have no need for a heritage vox or Matchless if you get a Copperpanel. I kinda want a top boost version now. Some say they prefer the early non-boost, but I gotta compared with an equivalent top boost model myself to see

JMP is a must have imo. I’m planning on getting mine put back to stock. Most pleasing midrange and roar I’ve heard in any amp
 
braintheory":k100hs0q said:
For me, the only amps left on my radar are just a late ‘60’s Plexi, Dover and Tim Schroeder. If I had the money I’d also say Dumble and Trainwreck, but that will probably never happen

For what it’s worth, I’d highly recommend saving up for an early ‘60’s Copperpanel AC30. There’s nothing else like it. It’s the most warm and organic sounding amp I’ve ever owned and just beautiful tone. Almost every other amp I have sounds comparatively ear fatiguing and almost brittle, yet the vox is still one of the brighter sounding amps I have. IMO you’ll have no need for a heritage vox or Matchless if you get a Copperpanel. I kinda want a top boost version now. Some say they prefer the early non-boost, but I gotta compared with an equivalent top boost model myself to see

JMP is a must have imo. I’m planning on getting mine put back to stock. Most pleasing midrange and roar I’ve heard in any amp
Yeah, those copper panel AC30's are expensive. I was on the JMJ list, but I never heard back from him. I recapped my AC15 Heritage, and man, is that one incredible sounding amp. The TB side has that extra 130pf bright cap, that I may put on a push/pull pot. I usually play it on the EF86 side, as it just loves pedals! TB side, not so much.
 
Racerxrated":ln1toy4b said:
I've had all version of the Jubilees and the 2554 is my favorite.
I like the 2554 much better than the 2550 head that I had, both as a stand-alone and through the 4x12. What do you think of the 25 watt mode? IMO, it's the best sounding 1/2 power mode of any Marshall I've ever owned. It has a sort-of 'tube rectifier' feel to it, IMO. I use the triode mode a lot.
 
Goat":y4up2yfp said:
Racerxrated":y4up2yfp said:
I've had all version of the Jubilees and the 2554 is my favorite.
I like the 2554 much better than the 2550 head that I had, both as a stand-alone and through the 4x12. What do you think of the 25 watt mode? IMO, it's the best sounding 1/2 power mode of any Marshall I've ever owned. It has a sort-of 'tube rectifier' feel to it, IMO. I use the triode mode a lot.
I tend to keep it on full, but I agree the half is good on this amp compared to others I've owned. It has a nice warmth to it.

Those Fane 90s are definitely a speaker I need to try sometime. Only heard good things.
:rock:
 
I ask you... Is there a cooler looking 1x12 combo? :)

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Racerxrated":2pjj97ed said:
Goat":2pjj97ed said:
Racerxrated":2pjj97ed said:
I've had all version of the Jubilees and the 2554 is my favorite.
I like the 2554 much better than the 2550 head that I had, both as a stand-alone and through the 4x12. What do you think of the 25 watt mode? IMO, it's the best sounding 1/2 power mode of any Marshall I've ever owned. It has a sort-of 'tube rectifier' feel to it, IMO. I use the triode mode a lot.
I tend to keep it on full, but I agree the half is good on this amp compared to others I've owned. It has a nice warmth to it.

Those Fane 90s are definitely a speaker I need to try sometime. Only heard good things.
:rock:
Agreed, the 25 watt mode was quite good

The F90’s won’t have same warmth or character as your vintage celestions, but if you want punch, definition, and moving air they do the job better than anything I’ve tried thus far. I’ve only had ‘em mixed with V30’s and Fullback’s, but will try them as a full quad eventually. They’re $150 new, so not as bad as most celestions

I also quite like the Celestion Alnico Gold’s. Planning to cross a pair of those with my RIC Creamback’s tonight
 
Racerxrated":cbijr4t5 said:
Goat":cbijr4t5 said:
Racerxrated":cbijr4t5 said:
I've had all version of the Jubilees and the 2554 is my favorite.
I like the 2554 much better than the 2550 head that I had, both as a stand-alone and through the 4x12. What do you think of the 25 watt mode? IMO, it's the best sounding 1/2 power mode of any Marshall I've ever owned. It has a sort-of 'tube rectifier' feel to it, IMO. I use the triode mode a lot.
I tend to keep it on full, but I agree the half is good on this amp compared to others I've owned. It has a nice warmth to it.

Those Fane 90s are definitely a speaker I need to try sometime. Only heard good things.
:rock:
I've heard that the Fane AXA12 is an awesome speaker, but I don't think they make it anymore.
 
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