Bogner 20th Ecstasy plexi mode and clean boost ?

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Anyone know of any clips showing the plexi mode with boost on and off? Also how do you engage the plexi boost mode? Is it just by footswitch? How does the clean boost differ from the 101b clean boost? Thanks for any info. you guys were right, just sold my Kemper. miss my Bogner to much.
 
Can't use the Boost function with the "plexi" mode on.
 
I know on my old 101b you coudn't use the boost when in plexi mode. I thought the plexi mode, on the 20th, had a boost now? Thanks
 
Ya, unfortunately it's the same dealio with the 20thA, or is it unfortunate? Not sure. You can choose the "Plexi" mode to be on either Ch.2 (Blue) or Ch.3 (Red), or neither. And when it's selected on that channel, the footcontrolled, rear panel Boost circuit will not engage. Honestly, it's more of a puritan thing I think, in the sense that the the Plexi mode really does dig volume to make it sing. Seriously. Outside of this, the Boost is the best working integrated Boost I've ever had the pleasure of using. It's seriously good - and not just an afterthought gimmick.

Great, great amp. Seriously.
 
se7en":tgj1exf9 said:
I can boost plexi mode via the footswitch no problem.
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I'm going to give 'er a whirl again tonight. Gain Boost is inactive though whenever "Plexi" is assigned and active on either Blue or Red.

:dunno:
 
Hmm...I have one of the first 20th XTC built. I can boost both blue and red when plexi is engaged.
 
you guys have me totaly confused, help :lol: :LOL:

I found this in the manual

The plexi channel has slightly more gain and a foot controllable boost was added which expands the amp to have 6 sounds on tap. The boost is engaged with the same switch as for Ch.2 & 3
 
Straight out of the manual (I'm still at the office, so can't test drive this)...

The Plexi channel is voiced to please players who love that wide open 60's British sound. Plexi is a lower
gain channel than Lead. Like the older amps it emulates, the louder you turn it up the better it sounds. As
you can see, the plexi channel can be assigned to either Ch.2 or Ch.3. This enables you to keep intact
your favorite dirty channel, 2 or 3, and kick back and forth between plexi and your favorite channel.
Note: structure switch and Gain Boost 2 & 3 switch are inactive for Plexi.

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Mo, I think you're looking at the 101b manual. From the Bogner website:

20th Anniversary option:
This option features a new preamp circuit with so called boutique capacitors which have been available for the past few years now. The pre EQ’s 2&3 have been shifted and a vintage modern style switch lets you decide the overall flavor of Ch.2 and Ch.3, bypassed when in plexi mode.
The plexi channel has slightly more gain and a foot controllable boost was added which expands the amp to have 6 sounds on tap. The boost is engaged with the same switch as for Ch.2 & 3.
The clean channel has been changed; special emphasis was taken to the boosted mode which gives you more gain with nice balanced frequencies and compression.
Power amp dampening was adjusted to compliment the new pre amp design, the Excursion switches so to speak. The amp was designed and comes standard with 6L6 power amp tubes. The 20tA has a plexi panel with gold background and is housed in a slightly bigger head shell to feature the all familiar classic vintage vibe.
 
se7en":3bi1ml1c said:
Mo, I think you're looking at the 101b manual. From the Bogner website:

20th Anniversary option:
This option features a new preamp circuit with so called boutique capacitors which have been available for the past few years now. The pre EQ’s 2&3 have been shifted and a vintage modern style switch lets you decide the overall flavor of Ch.2 and Ch.3, bypassed when in plexi mode.
The plexi channel has slightly more gain and a foot controllable boost was added which expands the amp to have 6 sounds on tap. The boost is engaged with the same switch as for Ch.2 & 3.
The clean channel has been changed; special emphasis was taken to the boosted mode which gives you more gain with nice balanced frequencies and compression.
Power amp dampening was adjusted to compliment the new pre amp design, the Excursion switches so to speak. The amp was designed and comes standard with 6L6 power amp tubes. The 20tA has a plexi panel with gold background and is housed in a slightly bigger head shell to feature the all familiar classic vintage vibe.
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Banger, nicely done... Still at office for another 45min so still haven't turned 'er on :aww:

You're right on though, I only pulled that from the manual I could find onsite - not actually trying it out at home. Well done Good Sir :yes: :thumbsup: :salute:

(and for the life of me I can't remember if and when I actually hammer the Boost function on via footswitch when in "plexi" mode as I'm not often in "plexi" mode with my 20thX. Just completely escaped me mentally :doh: ).
 
This is good news. Could you let me know how it sounds. Also the vintage moderne switch on the front panel how does that change the sound. Thanks for any info
 
Thanks man that's great. It sounds like a little more crunch and volume. The Plexi mode sounds a little more dirt then the 101b plexi mode, which is a good thing IMHO. My problem is, do I spend about $600 more for the 20th over the 101b? Reading and watching videos, tough sorting through all the subjective crap. :confused: Thanks for the time on this.
 
No problem...happy to help. Yeah, the Plexi mode seems more accurate on the 20th. In general it's a more versatile amp than the 101b, in that if you run it in vintage mode you can get that smoother, rounder and more slinky thing going - closer to the 101b.... In modern mode it has more teeth and thump to it and is tighter. The clean channel is very nice as well. Overall there is more articulation, tightness in the low end and more 'Marshall' to the tone, while still having the Bogner low mids. It's an improvement all around for me. It's also much easier to EQ and you don't have set the presence super high to cut thru like the 101b. Hope this helps.
 
That additional $600 is nothing for the added features of the amp. But it's all relative, it's worth a lot if you don't have it or the ability to get into the 101B as is. So buy wisely, if you've got the cash, you won't be disappointed - if you get the 101B, my guess is you'll wanna try the 20thA eventually anyway.
 
That's my problem I had the 101b and always was wondering about the 20th so this ain't going away . It sucks cause its so expensive. Thanks again to both you guys for the info enjoy those amps. :rock:
 
Not an expert on the 20th ann but I own a 101b. I've play thru a 20th (6L6) more than once and I can tell u first hand they are voiced completely different. It a matter of taste but the the 20th has more of a Marshall voicing not as smooth as the 101b. If you've listened to any recent Steve Lukather YouTube videos (dimarzio/bogner) that is the 101b blue channel (with boost) and the 20th doesn't reproduce that sound. Although, the 20th red channel is absolutely wicked and prefer over the standard 101b red. I'm a big fan of the PLEXI mode on 101b, but haven't tried PLEXI mode on the 20th. Would love to one day pickup a 20th as it is a quality amp and would embrace the differences.

Ron
 
jamme61":3p0ptiny said:
That's my problem I had the 101b and always was wondering about the 20th so this ain't going away . It sucks cause its so expensive. Thanks again to both you guys for the info enjoy those amps. :rock:
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I love the 20th.
 
The boost function works for Plexi mode for me too. Pushes it nicely over the edge!

-C
 
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