iamjoe
Member
Can anybody tell me whether the Brixton has more gain on tap than the Shiva 20th KT88? I own the 20th and am always wishing it had more gain.
Joe
Joe
glip22
Well-known member
I would doubt it much. Your amp has quite a bit of gain. I really liked mine with 6550 but you have to be careful. Winged C worked for me. You can try this. From a thread I posted long ago.
If you insert a patch cable from the FX rack send to the FX return, jumpering the loop, your amp will turn into a monster from the hotter signal post PI and power amp I believe.
****** Some of the earlier white head Shivas are mislabeled like mine. When Bogner designed the new tubes up Shiva 20th they forgot to change the rack send and pedal send labels on the chasis. My amp's rack send is actually my pedal send and vice versa. This is why I thought I was getting such a huge volume increase by jumping my pedal send to return. It was making no sense to me since the rack send should be the hotter signal. If you jump the rack send to return look out. It gets loud. Charlie at Bogner just cleared it up for me. He said it's one of those embarassing things like a misminted penny. They only caught it fairly recently. Pretty cool info.
If you insert a patch cable from the FX rack send to the FX return, jumpering the loop, your amp will turn into a monster from the hotter signal post PI and power amp I believe.
****** Some of the earlier white head Shivas are mislabeled like mine. When Bogner designed the new tubes up Shiva 20th they forgot to change the rack send and pedal send labels on the chasis. My amp's rack send is actually my pedal send and vice versa. This is why I thought I was getting such a huge volume increase by jumping my pedal send to return. It was making no sense to me since the rack send should be the hotter signal. If you jump the rack send to return look out. It gets loud. Charlie at Bogner just cleared it up for me. He said it's one of those embarassing things like a misminted penny. They only caught it fairly recently. Pretty cool info.
iamjoe
Member
Thank you Glip22.
I will definitely try jumpering the fx loop.
Joe
I will definitely try jumpering the fx loop.
Joe
glip22
Well-known member
Post up what you think.iamjoe":3rks8c63 said:
memberzonly
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The Brixton has a voicing switch which radically alters the gain feel and compression. In vintage mode, the overall volume is louder and the gain more "vintage" but still hot when the gain is pushed. When using the other side of the switch, the volume drops quite a bit and you get way more gain/compression for the same level on the Gain knob.
Think of the voicing switch as going between the boosted/unboosted Blue channel on an XTC ( 100b ) but with more gain. Not exactly the same tone but in the ballpark but with the volume cut.
Much of the mojo of the Brixton is the 6v6. I loved mine but could not get by with the single "channel". It is a GREAT bedroom/recording amp through.
Think of the voicing switch as going between the boosted/unboosted Blue channel on an XTC ( 100b ) but with more gain. Not exactly the same tone but in the ballpark but with the volume cut.
Much of the mojo of the Brixton is the 6v6. I loved mine but could not get by with the single "channel". It is a GREAT bedroom/recording amp through.
WizardSouth-JP
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Brixton has a boatload of gain but doesn't have the girth of the Shiva 20th. Interest to hear if amp blows up by jumping the loop 
C
Crowyote
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I used to own a Brixton and loved how it could cut through the mix on lead tones. After a few months, I just got tired of the tone which I felt was too fizzy and didn't take certain effects well.
Now I'm playing a Mephisto and I much prefer the 6v6 circuit in it and the ability to mix it with an EL84 sound. Admittedly this sounds nothing at all like a compressed sounding "metal amp" really . . . it becomes more "Chewy" and has much more roar and growl when the preamp and power tubes are overdriven.
If Bogner made a fixed bias EL84 amp, I bet it would kill the tone of the Brixton . . . I think this is what the Atma is actually . . . so just wait for it to come out.
It's coming soon.
Now I'm playing a Mephisto and I much prefer the 6v6 circuit in it and the ability to mix it with an EL84 sound. Admittedly this sounds nothing at all like a compressed sounding "metal amp" really . . . it becomes more "Chewy" and has much more roar and growl when the preamp and power tubes are overdriven.
If Bogner made a fixed bias EL84 amp, I bet it would kill the tone of the Brixton . . . I think this is what the Atma is actually . . . so just wait for it to come out.
It's coming soon.
WizardSouth-JP
Well-known member
Metropolis is EL84 and it's a fine amp...covers a lot of ground
iamjoe
Member
What about adding the the uberschall pedal to the clean channel on my shiva? Anybody ever try that before?