Cables for Columbus ???

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hi guys, I need your help here...

I have a Herbert, and I have just received the columbus... so I'm happy for that...

BUT...

I have a problem, I really CANT STORE absolutely NOTHING... I follow all the steps, and nothing stored...

Now my question on cables... what kind of cables do you use ???

I bought a XLR male-female standard audio cable, and it works nice (it turns on, I can switch from one program to other... there were some programs already made), but I can store absolutely nothing...

Is that due to the cable ?

I mean, what cables do you use to program ?? midi or xlr .

And, if you use midi cables, what kind of cable ??? I went to a music store yesterday, and they told me they only have midi cables with 5 pins, instead of 7 pins (the columbus imput has 7 pins...??? ) they had no idea about this 7 pin cable ???

Please, someone help me.. cause I'm desperated... :(
 
Check the manual on how to set your Herbert to omni-mode (I think that's the one you need)...if not set it to the other mode. :D

Edit: Check Herbies manual, chapter 7.
 
Both work with Herbert, Midi 5 pole or XLR - I prefer XLR though . . .

To set it to Omni: press (hold) mute switch and then (once) master 2 switch.
Four LEDs will flash then: Midcut, Master 2, Loop´and Store.

And you have to store with Herberts store button of course (not sure if thats clear to you)
 
I already putted it in omni mode... and nothing...

I will try to put them in other modes, like you say... and see..

P.S. about the midi cable ??? what can you tell me ??? I want to try with another cable, but dont know what midi cable get ... 5 pins ??' 7 pins ?? (they dont have any midi cable with 7 pins :| and didnt even know about it)

Thanks
 
Thanks.. I will go and buy a midi cable then...

One question... do you think this problem can be caused by a problem with the midi chip ??? (I really follow all teh steps... damned it, it's not so difficult...:| )
 
Don't you have a short 5 pin midi flying around to test if the XLR is faulty first?
 
No mate, this is my first midi ever...

The xlr is a brand new cable.. I bought it exclusively for this.. BUT anything can happens, off course...

I will go and buy a midi cable today and make the test...

So, a 5 pin midi cable... is correct ???

(now a stupid question... if the midi cable is a 5 pin... why did they use a 7 pins input ??? :| )

Thank you so much.

Ben.
 
No prob Ben.

7 Pins are used by Rocktron f.i. - the two additional with a power supply (in the rack) to feed their footcontrollers.

You must use 5 pin or XLR.

It can happen all the time. When I've built my last amp (which also switches via a 5 pin) in a brandnew midi 5pin the middle pin wasn't working. Took me one day to find out it was the cable and not my wiring . . .
 
Thanks again, I hope that can be the problem.. a shit cable... that can be easy to solve.. just 10€ to the garbage, but not a big deal ;)...

I will get the new midi cable today, and see what happens.. I will let you know ...

And once again, THANK YOU SO MUCH...

(P.S. I really dont understand how "decent" stores use to sell garbage... dont know if is this certain case, but most use to do it !!! ;))

Ben.
 
Of course it don't has to be the cable, but it would be the easiest fix.

You could check the XLR with a microphone . . . ;)
 
well, I haave to check if a have a micro over here...

The thing that worries me a little is that.. the cable seems to work.. I mean... I plug it, it turns on... and If I press any botton in the columbus, it changes the channels (as I told ya, there were some programs already made, for example, in the 00 - channel 1... in the 01- channel 2.. on 03-channel3... on 03-mute... and the same with V2 on)...

That brings me to the point... could fail storing but not changing programs ??? :|...

(we'll see this evening when I get the midi cable...).

In any case, thank yuo so much, and excuse me for being a pain in the ass ;) (but is hard when things seems to not work and you dont know why)

Thanks

Ben.
 
Easy:
1.- turn the amp on... (giving it some minutes to heat up, off course)
2.- put it in omni mode... pressing mute.. holding it PRESSED.. and then Volume 2... blinks some leds... and that is in omni mode...
3.- press 01 on columbus...
4.- I put the channel I want to go to the 01 on columbus... for example... channel 3 + mid cut
5.- double click on STORE... and all the leds goes ON at the same time (If I recall)

And that's all.. then I change to another program on columbus... back to the 1 to see if it's done... and nothing...

(do I do anything wrong ? )
 
You only have to click store once, but I don't know if that would cause your problem.

-Nick
 
Ummm.. once ???

That's the first time I hear that...

This is what Peter D. told me:

1.- Select preset (5) on Columbus
2.- Choose a channel 2 on the Herbert
3.- Push “Store” button TWICE on the Herbert
4.- Go to program number 1 on the Columbus
5.- Go back to program number 5 on the Columbus

And this is what the manual says...:

6.7 Store
As discussed earlier, this is the universal programming button. Activating this
button twice will verify an intended program procedure.

So, should I only click it once ??
 
Wait it's twice ...sorry I just woke up, hahaha, damnit.

:doh:

-Nick
 
Hdehehe.. you almost got me ;)...

Well, I'm waiting for another new cable (now a midi one), to finally check what is the problem... the cable or the herbert !!! (I really wish and pray it's the cable :$:$:$ )
 
It's "click the store button twice" - meaning: click once - pause - click second time, not "double-click the store button" though...might make a difference...
 
Hehehe.. believe me.. I have tried alllllll the different ways... super fast double click, normal double click... click... then wait a little (then I see the leds blinking showing what will be stored, like Peter S. showed me in the past), and then the second click and nothing yet... :(,

In a pair of hours I will get the midi cable, and test with it... (I'm now really thinking that it may NOT be the cable but a bigger problem... midi chip ??' ) :( hope dont
 
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