Can someone give me a quick rundown on this vh4 setup please

[Anonymous]

I simply want to run my VH4 with either a lexicon MPX G2 in the serial loop of my VH4 in a W/D/W setup with my Randall RT 250 power ampp. Does anyone that knows how to help me accomplish this mind calling me up to help me get this set up right please? I basically just need to trouble shoot at this stage... I'm really bummed that I can't get this basic setup to work right.

 

[cardinal]

If the MPX G2 can take a mono input --> stereo outputs, simplest way seems like it'd be:

Serial loop send --> input of MPX G2, then the left and right outputs of the MPX G2 to each side of the RT 250.

The VH4 and each side of the RT 250 will need loads.

 

[steve_k]

If you want a WDW set up, you will be running the VH4 dry and the Lexicon/Randall as the W/W.

Use the parallel send to your Lexicon (mono in is probably marked L or R on the unit). Make sure the Lexicon is set to 100% wet. Use the loop send level to control signal to the Lexicon. You can stereo out of the Lexicon to both sides of the Randall. Each side will need a cab.

 

[cardinal]

^ I'd suggest using the parallel loop, as well. Serial loop sounds fine, but I like having a bit of dry in with the wet cabs. But if you're just trying to get the thing working, the serial loop (which you mentioned in the OP) probably is the easiest way to make sure all the equipment is working right.

But to be clear, like we've said: you must run loads (cabs) with the VH4 and both sides of the RT 250.

 

[Anonymous]

Damn... I've tried it exactly the way mentioned and all I can get is a short brief signal that cuts in on the wet cabs for a half a second. I'll have to make a video showing what's going on and upload it this weekend. For now can someone tell me how to hook up the strymon timeline and wet stereo reverb in the place of the lexicon? The timelines manual isn't helpful on how to hook the pedal up in a w/d/w setup. Should The reverb go first, then delay into the power amp?

Thanks for all your guys help so far.

 

[steve_k]

Damn... I've tried it exactly the way mentioned and all I can get is a short brief signal that cuts in on the wet cabs for a half a second. I'll have to make a video showing what's going on and upload it this weekend. For now can someone tell me how to hook up the strymon timeline and wet stereo reverb in the place of the lexicon? The timelines manual isn't helpful on how to hook the pedal up in a w/d/w setup. Should The reverb go first, then delay into the power amp?

Thanks for all your guys help so far.

You are using the loop master to send enough signal to the Lexicon and have the parallel loop engaged? The Lexicon needs to be set to 100% wet signal and make sure it's output is enough. Are there some LED meters on them to show input gain and output signal level?

Are you sure the Lexicon unit is good?

As for the Strymon/Wet Reverb - put the reverb last in the chain and use the parallel loop (send->Strymon->Verb->return). Use the loop master to control the amount of wet signal.

 

[cardinal]

Not to argue with Steve, but you need to keep this simple because something's not going right.

Use the serial loop. Both if those units have nice analog-dry-through sections anyway.

Just use the wet reverb for now. Dont complicate it with the Timeline yet. Serial send to one input on the Wet. Left and right outputs to the Randall. 3 cabs. This should work.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks guys. Just to let you know, I tested the lexicon straight through the power amps and into the wet cabs and it worked just fine. So then I hooked the VH4 back into the lexicon mono input and ran the thru input on the front of the VH4 to the guitar input of the lexicon and it worked just fine as long as I had the send 2 button on the front of the VH4 engaged and the lexicon set to %100. The parallel knob on the front of the VH4 made no difference with that signal so I had to adjust the volume with the Randall power amp volume knob. I have a feeling this is still the wrong way to be running this setup, but I could be wrong.

For the most part It sounds good, but I can hear the wet cabs clipping and see the clip button on the front of the lexicon lighting up. I try to engage the input gain knobs and another knob to make it stop clipping, but no luck so far. Does anyone know in particular how to help me get it to stop clipping or should I not be running the cabling this way between the VH4 and lexicon?

 

[steve_k]

Not to argue with Steve, but you need to keep this simple because something's not going right.

Use the serial loop. Both if those units have nice analog-dry-through sections anyway.

Just use the wet reverb for now. Dont complicate it with the Timeline yet. Serial send to one input on the Wet. Left and right outputs to the Randall. 3 cabs. This should work.

The only reason I was saying to use the parallel loop was to use Send 2 volume and, I can't remember if on the serial loop if you just use send if the signal will still pass to the VH4 power section. Serial is in and out and sometimes not through. If you don't return the signal, nothing comes out of the amp. Can't remember if this is true for the VH4.

Anyway Chad - using the through put on the VH4 is not right either....

 

[cardinal]

The Thru input on the VH4 is for splitting the input signal to another amp head. Not for running to effects for w/d/w. You want to use the effects loops.

I don't have a VH4 at the moment either, but I when I used a VH4S, I could run from the Serial send to an effects unit and return to just one side of the amp. The other side still worked just fine (and was completely dry). So I think this will work.

 

[slyvren]

The parallel loop volume is on the return, not the send. I've used it to run another signal back into the vh4 with no Send. Think of it as an additional master volume for whatever is returned via the parallel return. The Send 2 output level is like the send 1 output level in that it is controlled by the individual channel volumes.

I recommend turn your channel volumes down and using send 2 by enabling it on the front panel.

I'm pretty sure the serial loop activates via the return jack, so send 1 should work too if you want the signal always on.

Nothing should be plugged into your VH4 return jacks.

Hope that helps.