Cryoset Tubes - Einstein 100 Review

[Dallas Marlow]

Hey All,

Just wanted to give everyone a quick review of the Cryoset Tubes I put in my Diezel Einstein 100.

I'm using a Les Paul with the 498/500 combo and SED EL34 (not cryoset) for this review.

I'm using this:

v1 - Tung Sol
v2 - JJ
v3 - Ruby Tube
v4/5 - Chinese 12ax7b
v6 - Tung Sol balanced (the balanced may or may not make much of a difference I haven't a/bed it but it sounds fantastic so I'm not messing with something good) I've come to the conclusion don't tweak when your happy!!!

For those that don't know the Cryoset stuff is when they take the tubes down to really low temps for a 24 hour period and then gradually bring them back up to normal temps or something to that effect check their website for more info. It's supposedly to make them more dynamic and responsive as well as make them more reliable. I can't speak as to the reliability, but they do seem more responsive, however; they are NEW pre-amp tubes so it's hard to say whether or not either of these claims are able to be proven. Especially with the variances in new tubes these days and tubes in general.

I can say that they sound fantastic, were only a few bucks more per tube, and I had excellent service. To my ears they do seem to have a bit more of a responsive feel, as well as a bit of a more articulate and musical hi-fi sound, not one that sounds fake... they just sound right. The arrangement I picked out of pre amp tubes really helped me get exactly the sound I was going for with this amp.

I can't say enough about how much this amplifier literally destroys every other thing I have ever played. I also own Randall MTS stuff which I thought was great, very versatile and I actually tracked my last record with it... but I wont even play the amp anymore. It simply collects dust as a back up in case of tube failure. The Diezel has a sound, clarity, tightness and harmonic richness that I haven't heard anyone even close to compare to, not to mention that it is extremely warm, and not harsh on any of the channels. The versatility and features of this amp are things I haven't found on a single other amp, and honestly no other amp out there even remotely interests me at this point.

Anyway, I know I got side tracked complimenting the amp but I think the company deserves some much needed applause, it is simply stellar.

Hope this helps someone asking about pre-amp tubes!

Dallas

 

[PaulyPanacea]

I also have Cryoset Tubes in my Diezel (Herbert). They are great tubes. Very articulate. A little more dynamic to my ears. Definatly a great preamp tube!!

Glad u are enjoying your Einstein. one down 3 more to go!!

 

[Dallas Marlow]

Haha you'll probably laugh at me but I love my Einstein so much I really don't have any desire for the other Diezel amps quite honestly.

I don't have any dealers in my area so I listened to clips over the internet mostly, I have heard the Herbert in person and didn't like the sounds the guy was getting out of it. It sounded much more metal to me than the Einstein, had a bit more compression and didn't seem quite as rich. Also, I try to avoid amps with Midi or anything that isn't absolutely necessary. The VH4 sounds cool but is a little high-fi to my ears from the sounds of it. Now the Schmidt I'd be interested in just for fun it's a great sounding more vintagy amp, but for something I wont use every day I'll save the $4000 I don't have haha.

 

[Joeytpg]

Haha you'll probably laugh at me but I love my Einstein so much I really don't have any desire for the other Diezel amps quite honestly.

I don't have any dealers in my area so I listened to clips over the internet mostly, I have heard the Herbert in person and didn't like the sounds the guy was getting out of it. It sounded much more metal to me than the Einstein, had a bit more compression and didn't seem quite as rich. Also, I try to avoid amps with Midi or anything that isn't absolutely necessary. The VH4 sounds cool but is a little high-fi to my ears from the sounds of it. Now the Schmidt I'd be interested in just for fun it's a great sounding more vintagy amp, but for something I wont use every day I'll save the $4000 I don't have haha.

I REALLY like your way of thinking. If you're happy with what you got, why should you go out searching for more? seems stupid and it's a practice almost all of us musicians do, but doesn't make it right. I love Diezels (I've owned the Einstein and now the VH4, had them together before I decided on the VH4...and I'm not a metal player, I just liked the clean channel and channel two more than the Einstein's clean and mode 2. Channel 2 on the Einstein is very nice I REALLY liked it, and honestly I wish I could have kept it but having 8,000 dollars parked seems like too much.

The people here are great, and so are Diezel amps, but we have to stop advicing people to "go get the other ones" I mean seriously, someone just spent 3000 + on an amp why should he go spend 3000+ more on an amp from the same company which STILL has the same characteristic sound?

Some folks here seem to be doing better than other financially and that's great, but some other just cannot have 3 or 4 Diezels on a basement. Even if you're a club/bar giggin' musician, it's just too much.

 

[PaulyPanacea]

It was a joke..relax my friend. And i am not financially well off by any means..not even close ...but if i die tomorrow i know i def know i enjoyed myself.

 

[Joeytpg]

yeah, don't worry Pauly, I was not going off at you hehehe, actually at anybody

 

[hairychris444]

Haha you'll probably laugh at me but I love my Einstein so much I really don't have any desire for the other Diezel amps quite honestly.

I don't have any dealers in my area so I listened to clips over the internet mostly, I have heard the Herbert in person and didn't like the sounds the guy was getting out of it. It sounded much more metal to me than the Einstein, had a bit more compression and didn't seem quite as rich. Also, I try to avoid amps with Midi or anything that isn't absolutely necessary. The VH4 sounds cool but is a little high-fi to my ears from the sounds of it. Now the Schmidt I'd be interested in just for fun it's a great sounding more vintagy amp, but for something I wont use every day I'll save the $4000 I don't have haha.

Yeah, I never got on particularly with the EL34 VH4 (never tried 6550s) and the Herbert's very good fun, but the Einstien does have that traditional feel but can get properly brutal when you push it. I do do the metal thing, and it's very good at it.

It's also a Luddite's amp with bugger all stuff to tweak, no midi, etc, which does me. I'm an idiot with gear so the less complicated stuff the better (my computer science degree and IT job doesn't translate to my music!). I agree with you there!

It has a really cool traditional thing going on that the Herbert doesn't. I'mkind of tossing up whether to trade up to a Herbert, but there's things about the Einstein that I love.

SED Winged 'C' EL34s are the business. Tried it with JJ KT88s but they didn't really do it justice...

But yeah. Einsteins will do pretty much everything. And well.

 

[Dallas Marlow]

Haha you'll probably laugh at me but I love my Einstein so much I really don't have any desire for the other Diezel amps quite honestly.

I don't have any dealers in my area so I listened to clips over the internet mostly, I have heard the Herbert in person and didn't like the sounds the guy was getting out of it. It sounded much more metal to me than the Einstein, had a bit more compression and didn't seem quite as rich. Also, I try to avoid amps with Midi or anything that isn't absolutely necessary. The VH4 sounds cool but is a little high-fi to my ears from the sounds of it. Now the Schmidt I'd be interested in just for fun it's a great sounding more vintagy amp, but for something I wont use every day I'll save the $4000 I don't have haha.

I REALLY like your way of thinking. If you're happy with what you got, why should you go out searching for more? seems stupid and it's a practice almost all of us musicians do, but doesn't make it right. I love Diezels (I've owned the Einstein and now the VH4, had them together before I decided on the VH4...and I'm not a metal player, I just liked the clean channel and channel two more than the Einstein's clean and mode 2. Channel 2 on the Einstein is very nice I REALLY liked it, and honestly I wish I could have kept it but having 8,000 dollars parked seems like too much.

The people here are great, and so are Diezel amps, but we have to stop advicing people to "go get the other ones" I mean seriously, someone just spent 3000 + on an amp why should he go spend 3000+ more on an amp from the same company which STILL has the same characteristic sound?

Some folks here seem to be doing better than other financially and that's great, but some other just cannot have 3 or 4 Diezels on a basement. Even if you're a club/bar giggin' musician, it's just too much.

Haha I actually had to abstain from going off on that tangent in an earlier post. Everyone's always chasing tone, I'm just lucky enough I've found the sound in my head in reality. It's a real bitch to do! At some point though we all have to come to the realization that our tone is as good as it's going to get, we need to spend more time playing and less time tweaking, and that honestly 99% of the people who will hear our music aren't going to know the difference between a metal zone and a dumble special.

 

[Dallas Marlow]

Haha you'll probably laugh at me but I love my Einstein so much I really don't have any desire for the other Diezel amps quite honestly.

I don't have any dealers in my area so I listened to clips over the internet mostly, I have heard the Herbert in person and didn't like the sounds the guy was getting out of it. It sounded much more metal to me than the Einstein, had a bit more compression and didn't seem quite as rich. Also, I try to avoid amps with Midi or anything that isn't absolutely necessary. The VH4 sounds cool but is a little high-fi to my ears from the sounds of it. Now the Schmidt I'd be interested in just for fun it's a great sounding more vintagy amp, but for something I wont use every day I'll save the $4000 I don't have haha.

Yeah, I never got on particularly with the EL34 VH4 (never tried 6550s) and the Herbert's very good fun, but the Einstien does have that traditional feel but can get properly brutal when you push it. I do do the metal thing, and it's very good at it.

It's also a Luddite's amp with bugger all stuff to tweak, no midi, etc, which does me. I'm an idiot with gear so the less complicated stuff the better (my computer science degree and IT job doesn't translate to my music!). I agree with you there!

It has a really cool traditional thing going on that the Herbert doesn't. I'mkind of tossing up whether to trade up to a Herbert, but there's things about the Einstein that I love.

SED Winged 'C' EL34s are the business. Tried it with JJ KT88s but they didn't really do it justice...

But yeah. Einsteins will do pretty much everything. And well.

My vote is to stick with the Einstein, it has harmonic content and a more classic sound that neither the VH4 or Herbert exhibit, not that either are bad amps they are great for their given purposes - just to me they don't hold a candle to the Einstein for what I like to play and sound like.

 

[Anonymous]

I have never heard of the Cryoset tubes, but I had a NOS Mullard that was cryogenically done prior to purchasing it.
It has incredible tone. Crygenically freezing tubes is used to re-align the molecules in the metal inside the tube to be striaght, after the metal having been bent into shape. This makes the metal stronger and more as it was prior to being shaped.

I have heard of saxophones and other brass instruments having this done. It makes them stronger, sound better, et. al.

 

[thiswaythatway]

I have never heard of the Cryoset tubes, but I had a NOS Mullard that was cryogenically done prior to purchasing it.
It has incredible tone. Crygenically freezing tubes is used to re-align the molecules in the metal inside the tube to be striaght, after the metal having been bent into shape. This makes the metal stronger and more as it was prior to being shaped.

I have heard of saxophones and other brass instruments having this done. It makes them stronger, sound better, et. al.

How does your Blonde Beauty LP sound with the Einstein? I actually have the same guitar. And I have some Einstein GAS.

 

[Dallas Marlow]

Haha you'll probably laugh at me but I love my Einstein so much I really don't have any desire for the other Diezel amps quite honestly.

I don't have any dealers in my area so I listened to clips over the internet mostly, I have heard the Herbert in person and didn't like the sounds the guy was getting out of it. It sounded much more metal to me than the Einstein, had a bit more compression and didn't seem quite as rich. Also, I try to avoid amps with Midi or anything that isn't absolutely necessary. The VH4 sounds cool but is a little high-fi to my ears from the sounds of it. Now the Schmidt I'd be interested in just for fun it's a great sounding more vintagy amp, but for something I wont use every day I'll save the $4000 I don't have haha.

Yeah, I never got on particularly with the EL34 VH4 (never tried 6550s) and the Herbert's very good fun, but the Einstien does have that traditional feel but can get properly brutal when you push it. I do do the metal thing, and it's very good at it.

It's also a Luddite's amp with bugger all stuff to tweak, no midi, etc, which does me. I'm an idiot with gear so the less complicated stuff the better (my computer science degree and IT job doesn't translate to my music!). I agree with you there!

It has a really cool traditional thing going on that the Herbert doesn't. I'mkind of tossing up whether to trade up to a Herbert, but there's things about the Einstein that I love.

SED Winged 'C' EL34s are the business. Tried it with JJ KT88s but they didn't really do it justice...

But yeah. Einsteins will do pretty much everything. And well.

My vote is to stick with the Einstein, it has harmonic content and a more classic sound that neither the VH4 or Herbert exhibit, not that either are bad amps they are great for their given purposes - just to me they don't hold a candle to the Einstein for what I like to play and sound like.

This is exactly what their website states. It makes sense to me! I'm all about stronger metal and more reliability! I may order my next set of power tubes from them!

 

[Anonymous]

How does your Blonde Beauty LP sound with the Einstein? I actually have the same guitar. And I have some Einstein GAS. [/quote]


Mine is stock electronically, but I have replaced the tail studs with Faber stainless steel ones, and replaced the Nashville bridge with a wireless ABR-1 from Faber parts. I had a choice of three AAA Standards and love the way it sounds with my Einstein, and my Olaf Krampe Deusentrieb Alizée Custom amp as well.

However both amps sound the best with my XOX Audio Tools Handle guitar. It is the most toneful guitar I have ever played.

I replaced the power tubes in my Einstein after three years of stock EL-34's with JJ KT77's. My amp has a stock V-30 Celestion in it with a Weber Beam-blocker in front of it.

The preamp tubes have been replaced as follows: V-1: NOS 1960's era Mullard 12AT7, V-2 NOS Phillips 5751, V-3: NOS 1960's Mullard 12AT7, phase inverter 12AT7 NOS Phillips with perfectly matched halves. The amp sounds amazing! Sweeter, richer, fuller, not the least bit harsh (but it never sounded harsh), with plenty of saturation, yet still retains clarity as a SLP has when dimed.

I use channel one, mode 2 with just the slightest touch of saturation on it and channel 2 with the gain at 9-9:30 and it sings ala a violinesque tone, and has great controlled feedback. I love the Einstein. It is so versatile and easy to get any type of great tone from it with any guitar I have tried through it. The changes I made are personal ones based on what I like to hear.