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‘No proof’ US landed on moon – Ex-Russian space boss


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Dmitry Rogozin says that while many in Roscosmos defended Washington’s version of events, no one could produce irrefutable proof

The former head of Russia’s Roscosmos space agency, Dmitry Rogozin, has expressed doubt that the US Apollo 11 mission really landed on the Moon in 1969, saying he has yet to see conclusive proof.

In a post on his Telegram channel on Sunday, Rogozin said he began his personal quest for the truth “about ten years ago” when he was still working in the Russian government, and that he grew skeptical about whether the Americans had actually set foot on the Moon when he compared how exhausted Soviet cosmonauts looked upon returning from their flights, and how seemingly unaffected the Apollo 11 crew was by contrast.

Rogozin said he sent requests for evidence to Roscosmos at the time.

The former official wrote that he continued with his efforts when he was appointed head of Roscosmos in 2018. However, according to Rogozin, no evidence was presented to him. Instead, several unnamed academics angrily criticized him for undermining the “sacred cooperation with NASA,” he claimed.

The former Roscosmos chief also said he had “received an angry phone call from a top-ranking official” who supposedly accused him of complicating international relations.
Moon mission makes ‘hard landing’


Rogozin concluded by saying he still cannot believe that the US was able to pull off the feat, but is now unable to, despite the incredible progress in technology since the late 1960s.

What he claims to have found out, however, was that Washington has “its people in [the Russian] establishment.”

Apollo 11 was the first manned mission to the Moon, with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin going down in history as the first humans to walk on the lunar surface.

The flight was preceded by the unmanned Soviet Luna 2 program, which blazed the trail for Moon exploration.

Last April, President Vladimir Putin pledged to resume Russia’s lunar program.

Moon rock’ in Netherlands museum is just petrified wood​

The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.

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It's not green cheese, but it might as well be.

The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by U.S. astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.


Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity.

"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."

The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing.

Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had gotten it from the U.S. State Department.

"I do remember that (Drees) was very interested in the little piece of stone," the NOS quoted Middendorf as saying. "But that it's not real, I don't know anything about that."

He could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

The U.S. Embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter.

The museum had vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, Van Gelder said.

She said the space agency told the museum then that it was possible the Netherlands had received a rock: NASA gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries in the early 1970s, but those were from later missions.

"Apparently no one thought to doubt it, since it came from the prime minister's collection," Van Gelder said.

esearchers from Amsterdam's Free University said they could see at a glance the rock was probably not from the moon. They followed the initial appraisal up with extensive testing.

"It's a nondescript, pretty-much-worthless stone," Geologist Frank Beunk concluded in an article published by the museum.

He said the rock, which the museum at one point insured for more than half a million dollars, was worth no more than 50 euros ($70).

Van Gelder said one important unanswered question is why Drees was given the stone. He was 83 years old in 1969 and had been out of office for 11 years. On the other hand, he was the country's elder statesman, the prime minister who helped the Netherlands rebuild after World War II.

Middendorf was treasurer of the Republican National Committee from 1965 until 1969, when President Richard Nixon dispatched him to the Netherlands.
 
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WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON:

Note: READ the Comment section of this book!!

Bill Kaysing was head of the technical presentations unit at the Rocketdyne Propulsion Field Laboratory from 1956 to 1963. This period encompassed the major planning for the engine and components of the Apollo project. During this time, Kaysing held security clearances with the U.S. Air Force and the Atomic Energy Commission. Here Bill is exposing the MANY LIES and DECEPTIONS that NASA used to totally fool us all including the whole world!

Below is another engineer exposing what he knows in the COMMENT SECTION for this excellent fact-filled book!

AeroEngineer
5.0 out of 5 stars

The Proof is ALWAYS in the pudding! NASA LIES! Vietnam Distraction and Robbery.
Reviewed in the United States on December 3, 2013

The proof is ALWAYS in the pudding. NASA mysteriously "lost" ALL of the original data for ALL of the Apollo missions! So according to NASA what we have now is recorded video of the original footage running on a tv way back when, wow really convincing! The Dutch government returned a piece of "moon rock" given to them by the geniuses at NASA, it turned out it was petrified wood! MOON ROCKS ARE ALSO ON EARTH! Mostly Antarctica, where Von Braun("ex"-Nazi brought to America just like Mengele was) and company went in 1967 for "research". This was simply to collect as many Moon meteorites as possible for the cover story. It is almost impossible to find the location of the "original" Apollo Moon rocks given to governments and institutions throughout the world, hmmm?

The plans for ALL of the moon landing equipment were also ALL LOST! These were built on the Earth but the technical plans were STILL ALL LOST! Even if you simply look at the pictures, how the heck did they get the Lunar dune buggy into the lander? The buggy is about the size of the lander, not to mention all the other equipment they had to carry. As confirmed also the temperatures on the Moon would have decimated everything in those nonsense pictures and movies that were filmed at some military installation in the Western US. An analysis of the pictures and video makes it pretty clear they were faked. I believe it was Neil Armstrong himself, a Freemason like all the other surviving astronauts, would not attend the 40th anniversary celebration of the "moon" landing. The founder of JPL was a Satanist/Luciferian and part of the whole Freemason occult structure. NASA is no different.

Stanley Kubricks confession, The Shining, to staging the Apollo nonsense is there too. Rear projection was used extensively and the same mountains were used in different pictures as well. Room 237=237,000 miles to the moon, the little boy has an Apollo 11 sweater on when he goes to Room 237 which has 2 sisters, GEMINI that is. A11 work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. A11=Apollo 11! Eyes Wide Shut was his way to letting us know about the secret occult societies that are in charge of, not just the USA, but pretty much the leadership of the whole world. Kubrick died during the making of that film, and a huge amount of it was permanently deleted never to be seen. Guess some one thought he went too far in that one. Kubricks films during and after 2001 Space Odyssey are the most revealing of the Illuminati/Eye of Horus/Ra and general occult hierarchies actions and plans, you simply have to have the training and understanding to read between the lines but most never get to that point.

The truth is that the whole fake Moon landing BS was to distract the American people from the atrocities of the New Opium War that was Vietnam and a way to siphon off 30 Billion dollars(and that's 60's funny fed money!!) from the most robbed and lied to people in history: the American taxpayer. That 30 Billion went to paying for the war and of course a good portion was simply stolen by those involved. People like Kissinger/Brezenski, Rockefeller, Bushes and the rest of the vermin that are part of the Illuminati world ruling structure will and have killed, robbed and enslaved millions for one end: the Luciferian NWO. This is a new Pharaohnic "paradise" run by megalomaniacs on par with Mao,Hitler and Stalin.
 
I’m read somewhere that there is a massive radiation belt that would have to be passed through to get to the moon and that it would kill any living being passing through it. 🤷

Can you imagine if it were faked ? The govt would lose so much credibility.
 
Next up: Is the Earth Really Round?

Hey Bags, google: Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter

Then read up on it and study the photos.
PLEASE take your time.

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Next up: Is the Earth Really Round?

Hey Bags, google: Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter

Then read up on it and study the photos.
PLEASE take your time.

lro_apollo_sites_ipod_lg.01577_print.jpg
Read the Header Title..........................why are YOU trying to convince ME?

Photos mean shit in this instance. The key player's admissions are what counts..............wouldn't you agree.
 
Cmon man everyone knows that shit was filmed by Kubrick on a soundstage

They used pure cocaine for the moon dust, and the space costumes were designed by Hedi Slimane

Fact.
 
Read the Header Title..........................why are YOU trying to convince ME?

Photos mean shit in this instance. The key player's admissions are what counts..............wouldn't you agree.

By “key player” do you mean that dude from the country that lost the space race?
 
The part about Kubrick is true.

Partially......
What most likely happened is Kubrick helped film/stage a simulated landing and parts of his
footage were used to supplement the actual stuff shot by the astronauts.

The whole world was watching.
Kubrick helped makes things look as visually mind blowing as the the event itself actually was.

ymmv
 
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Partially......
What most likely happened is Kubrick helped film/stage a simulated landing and parts of his
footage were used to supplement the actual stuff shot by the astronauts.

The whole world was watching.
Kubrick helped makes things look as visually mind blowing as the the event itself actually was.

ymmv

Is there anything at all that you don’t know,
Donnie?

Lol
 
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