Diezel Schmidt: switching the channels via MIDI: solved.

[blue2you]

Hi there,

I'm working now on my new setup and I have a few questions to answer.

I'm a new Diezel Schmidt owner and I'm wondering how can I switch the channels of my amp using an external switching system, like the Voodoo Lab GCX, Providence PEC-2 etc.

I mean, I must use the "normal" footswitch input or the separate inputs: channel 1/2, channel 3/loop, reverb on/off?

Also, can I use the Amp Gizmo to control my amp switching?

What is exactly the value of the TIP and the RING on each input?

Thanks for helping me,

Best regards from France,

Todor

 

[glassjaw7]

Diezel amps are not listed in rjm's supported amps list.
I would contact rjm music about the amp gizmo

Phone: (760) 597-9450
FAX: (888) 484-0829
E-mail: info@rjmmusic.com

 

[blue2you]

Diezel amps are not listed in rjm's supported amps list.
I would contact rjm music about the amp gizmo

Phone: (760) 597-9450
FAX: (888) 484-0829
E-mail: info@rjmmusic.com

That's what I've made...
I don't have the response yet...

 

[uwgestein]

I don´t think it is possibel to use Voodoo Lab/Ground Control. The schmidt is not a midi-amp an it cannot be converted to midi.

 

[blue2you]

I don´t think it is possibel to use Voodoo Lab/Ground Control. The schmidt is not a midi-amp an it cannot be converted to midi.

Wrong.
The Amp Gizmo turns every amp into a MIDI channel switching amp, so why not using my Voodoo Lab Ground Control Pro?

Also: the Voodoo Lab GCX have a switch loops to turn on and off the channels of any amp...

My question is how to switch the channels of my Diezel Schmidt using an external foot controller and not the original one?
The Providence PEC-2 provides 3 loops to switching the channels of your amp, but I don't know if this will work?
And also: I've tried to switch the channels of my Schmidt with my TC Electronic G-System Limited Edition who has two dedicated switch loops with every possible combination of tips and rings and there was no way to do that...
No matter of the inputs I've used: the Diezel footswitch input and the separate inputs...
What can I do to integrate this amp to my setup?

 

[uwgestein]

I´m sorry if I have wrong information. The info is coming from Peter S. He told me that den schmidt cannot converted to midi. I whould like to hear the solution of that problem.

Excuse me for not helping you out

 

[blue2you]

I´m sorry if I have wrong information. The info is coming from Peter S. He told me that den schmidt cannot converted to midi. I whould like to hear the solution of that problem.

Excuse me for not helping you out

Don't be sorry.
You helping me in some way, so thank you for your response.
I really want to know if there is a possibility to switch the channels of my Schmidt without using the original foot switch provided by Diezel.
I don't understand why we have 3 dedicated inputs: 1.channel1/channel2, 2.channel3/loop and 3.reverb on/off?
This must be useful in some way?

 

[NMFVS]

Hi,

check this, maybe it can help you.

http://www.musicomlab.co.kr/efxmkii.htm

 

[blue2you]

Please, I'll need some help from the Diezel crew...

 

[blue2you]

Hi,

check this, maybe it can help you.

http://www.musicomlab.co.kr/efxmkii.htm

Thanks, I know very well this foot controller, but this is not my question...
My question is: if I buy this foot controller or the Providence PEC-2 which is the same thing may be better or the Voodoo Lab GCX, is this will be the right solution to changing the channels of my amp?
As I say, I can't do switching the amp channels using a G-System Limited Edition who has the same switching loops like those foot controllers...

 

[uwgestein]

If you want some help of "Papa" himself, you have to wait ´til the guys are back from Japan. This should be this week (13.11 I think).

Perhaps this is a question for Olaf (Duesentrieb)

 

[blue2you]

If you want some help of "Papa" himself, you have to wait ´til the guys are back from Japan. This should be this week (13.11 I think).

Perhaps this is a question for Olaf (Duesentrieb)

Thank you.
I'll wait...

 

[Gutmann]

Hi -
This is what the manual says:

Es ist möglich alle Schalterbuchsen mit einem so genannten Midi Switcher zu verbinden
und so den Schmidt nachträglich zu midifizieren.

It is possible to connect all switching jacks with a so-called midi switcher to make the schmidt midi-compatible.

The switching jacks are stereo jacks.

 

[blue2you]

Hi -
This is what the manual says:

Es ist möglich alle Schalterbuchsen mit einem so genannten Midi Switcher zu verbinden
und so den Schmidt nachträglich zu midifizieren.

It is possible to connect all switching jacks with a so-called midi switcher to make the schmidt midi-compatible.

The switching jacks are stereo jacks.

Thanks for your answer.
My amp was shipped from Germany without the manual and I've seen only the German version on the Diezel web site.
Sorry, I don't speak and read the German language, please, would you be so kind to transcribe for me just this little portion that talking about the switching channels via MIDI?
If I understand right, any MIDI amp switcher like the Amp Gizmo or the Axess CFX4 Control Function Switcher for example will make this amp MIDI controllable?
And the cables must be the stereo cables?
Thank you!

 

[eddiespaghetty]

Hi Todor,

I guess,that the jacks have to be stereo. I have an Einstein - I switch channels and master 1 and 2 by using my G-Major or Replifex with one cable, and there the jack has to be stereo.

Do you know, if the G-System has exactly the same switching options like the G-major? If not, try to do it with a G-Major. If it works, then you could check further on.

Ed

 

[blue2you]

Hi Todor,

I guess,that the jacks have to be stereo. I have an Einstein - I switch channels and master 1 and 2 by using my G-Major or Replifex with one cable, and there the jack has to be stereo.

Do you know, if the G-System has exactly the same switching options like the G-major? If not, try to do it with a G-Major. If it works, then you could check further on.

Ed

Thanks Ed.
I've owned also the Diezel Einstein combo and the Diezel VH4 head.
I'll check this out.

 

[duesentrieb]

Stereo cables for the channels/loop switches and mono for the reverb.

Of course a Gizmo or MS-4 or whatever can switch Schmidt via midi. Since you have LEDs on front, just try and find out what is tip and what is ring - all switched towards ground of course.

You also need to try if you have to set your Gizmo to momentary instead of permanently switching (thats what I suspect) - sorry, don't have a Schmidt here atm - just had one for a short time (to write the manual).

Peter will be back during this week too . . .

Olaf

 

[blue2you]

Stereo cables for the channels/loop switches and mono for the reverb.

Of course a Gizmo or MS-4 or whatever can switch Schmidt via midi. Since you have LEDs on front, just try and find out what is tip and what is ring - all switched towards ground of course.

You also need to try if you have to set your Gizmo to momentary instead of permanently switching (thats what I suspect) - sorry, don't have a Schmidt here atm - just had one for a short time (to write the manual).

Peter will be back during this week too . . .

Olaf

Thank you very much Olaf
I'll check this out and I'll let you know.

 

[eddiespaghetty]

Hi Todor,

I just read the manuals of Schmidt and G-System, and actually you should be able to do some switching functions, but, as said before, try a stereo cable!

bw

 

[blue2you]

Hi Todor,

I just read the manuals of Schmidt and G-System, and actually you should be able to do some switching functions, but, as said before, try a stereo cable!

bw

Thanks Ed!
I've returned the G-System Limited because of it's transparency, so I can't perform this test, but I'll check the Amp Gizmo and I'll let you know.