Diezel Vintage

[Joeytpg]

I read a great comment Olaf posted some days ago in the general forum and I agree 1,000% this is the comment:

IMO both have covered the high gain grounds more than well.
They should invent "vintage" in a new way . . .

He was talking about Mike Fortin and Peter. I sooo agree with this, we already have a lot of high gainers and modern rock oriented amps, wouldn't it be AWEOSME to have a vintage line by Papa diezel?

Imagine a Peter Diezel encarnation of:

Marshall JTM45
Vox AC30
Fender Twin/Deluxe/Bassman
etc

now, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'm not saying Peter you emulate those amps or copy them (we have PLENTY of copycats out there in the boutique amp world), but Peter's magic put into the CONCEPT of those amps....the way they interact with the guitars and pickups and the player..... I think Peter created a masterpiece with the VH4 and it's already stablished as a MUST OWN for any real serious studio/producer and as time passes and newer designs and amps are delivered the VH4 gets more and more solidified as a future "vintage high gainer".

I'd love to see more of that..... Peter Diezel reinventing Vintage....... sounds like candy to my ears!

 

[K-mark5]

isn't that what schmidt was ment for?

 

[tripstan]

Personally I would love a single channel amp with a world famous Diezel FX loop.

 

[Ventura]

Honestly? Ch.2 of the Hagen and the VH4, and most of the terrain covered by the former Einstein, and most definitely all of the terrain covered by the Schmidt, and now several areas of the D-Moll; would all effectively be a foray into the realm of vintage-like tones. You'd just need to spend time getting them there - that hair-on-breakup, the specific cabs, guitar/pick style, etc. But I think most of Papa's amps have that sonic range in them, it's just so much fun going nuclear on the higher gain stuff that it's hard to devote much time to the other areas

Uncle Mo

 

[steve_k]

Peter needs to keep moving forward, not backwards. There's enough vintage clones on the market and plenty of amp builders gone under trying to build a better mousetrap.

Channel 1 of the D-Moll is vintage enough for me......

 

[Sigma.Xiria]

Peter needs to keep moving forward, not backwards. There's enough vintage clones on the market and plenty of amp builders gone under trying to build a better mousetrap.

Channel 1 of the D-Moll is vintage enough for me......

+1

 

[PaulyPanacea]

My Einstein combo w a speaker change covers all that vintage ground. Agree w Steve.. Move forward. Plenty a clones n reissues floating round.

 

[Joeytpg]

what I don't understand is what "moving forward" means to you guys?

is creating a high gain all over again "moving fwd"? if we're talkign about features, then yeah, that's forward thinking, and that's what I mean....a "vintage" sounding amp with modern features....... creating something unique. Here I'm sure the Schmidt is not a favorite because of the target it's directed towards, but people in the blues/pop/jazz community agree taht it's one of the coolest cleans out there, packed with features.......

so that's what I'm referring to..... we had a VH4, Herbert, Einstein....out of those three then came Hagen, Schmidt, DMoll, all of which are moderate to high gainers..... Schmidt is for sure in the more "vintage" real being class A and the clean note and the definition of notes etc etc....but overall STILL quite gainy.


I don't know, maybe it's me but I think Diezel can benefit from getting out of the "high gain" community a little bit. There's a GREAT crowd that wants a GREAT quality amp with great tones all of which equals DIEZEL, but without the high gain characteristics.

 

[Metal6string]

Honestly? Ch.2 of the Hagen and the VH4, and most of the terrain covered by the former Einstein, and most definitely all of the terrain covered by the Schmidt, and now several areas of the D-Moll; would all effectively be a foray into the realm of vintage-like tones. You'd just need to spend time getting them there - that hair-on-breakup, the specific cabs, guitar/pick style, etc. But I think most of Papa's amps have that sonic range in them, it's just so much fun going nuclear on the higher gain stuff that it's hard to devote much time to the other areas

Uncle Mo

+1 ha ha the "going nuclear"

 

[MontyW]

Personally I would love a single channel amp with a world famous Diezel FX loop.

Oh yes I'm with you on this one.

 

[cardinal]

I think I get what Joey's saying. In a multi-channel amp, I think you have to design it so that it's optimized for one channel, and the other channels have to work around that (all the channels are using the same power amp, for example). Joey wants a Diezel where everything is optimized for a clean tone. Maybe that's the Schmidt. I don't know.