Difference between EL34-BG and EL34-STR

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Hi,

anybody knows the tonal difference between the newer EL34-BG and EL34-STR?

THX
 
We are talking about the Ruby´s, right ?

The El34BSTR has more upper midrange than the
EL34BG, but if we talk about resolution I would
say the BSTR has 32 bit and the BG has 64 bit
concerning the complete midrange.

For metal and heavy rock some guys would like
the EL34BHT, because it has the most bass amount.

Be aware that 10 to 30% of all new and matched power
tubes have a small or big issue. This is not a problem of the area
tubes coming from.

The quality depends on the distributor and it´s a matter
of QC management. If they are not ready to throw a few
tubes in the trash can, You will be in trouble soon or later.

The most QC is done by the amp manufactures. If the amp
has an tube issue, people will blame the amp company not the
tube reseller.

Nevertheless there a few tubes we didn´t sort out, sorry about
that. And ... tube amps need service ... think about about the
brakes on Your car.

I have very good experience with Tom McNeil from Ruby Tubes.
He has an office close to the Chinese factories and is talking
with the designers. Last time when I had some complaints he came
over to Germany to check it out ... outstanding customer
support.

Cheers,
Peter
 
I have been installing BHTs, BSTRs (amongst others) and lately lots of BGs . The BGs, in my opinion, are the best sounding EL34s I have heard and played so far. It offers a very complete mid range that elevates your tone to a new level. It carries your tone much further than the other types and in addition has beautiful harmonics. Peter mentioned that the BGs have a bit less bottom end. To me it is not noticeable enough to mention it, especially since Diezel amps have more than enough bottom end already. In a band situation the mid frequencies cut through the mix and the BGs do exactly that. In a studio/recording environment a huge bottom end coming from your speakers (if you mic) is counter productive and the engineer will make you dial out on "bass" and "deep" anyways. You need midrange and nice harmonics. This is where the BGs excel.

Last week I received BGs from Ruby's new production run and have been burning in sets for customers. So far it seems that the quality has improved over the first production run. Less rejects during the burn in process. As Peter mentioned Ruby president Tom McNeil is taking Diezel's input very seriously and strives to improve the reliability of Ruby's tubes. This attitude is what makes Ruby a great company.

I have been installing the BGs in all Diezel amp models and can confidently say that this new tube type is a winner !

Kind regards,

Jens Kruse
 
Dear Diezel Familiy, thank you very very much for the detailed and fast response :-)

One last Question: How does the BG's handle the upper highs? There are often very painful highs with the STR's, aren't it? But I have to say that I'm playing through a FL Diezel Cab with V30.... :D

So are the BG's a possibility to reduce these sharp highs on my Hagen a little bit whithout a modification?


THX
 
QOTSA_Lover":11vgq722 said:
Dear Diezel Familiy, thank you very very much for the detailed and fast response :-)

One last Question: How does the BG's handle the upper highs? There are often very painful highs with the STR's, aren't it? But I have to say that I'm playing through a FL Diezel Cab with V30.... :D

So are the BG's a possibility to reduce these sharp highs on my Hagen a little bit whithout a modification?


THX
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You have the EL34-BG in your Hagen already ;)
 
QOTSA_Lover":qggr53ie said:
There are often very painful highs with the STR's, aren't it? But I have to say that I'm playing through a FL Diezel Cab with V30.... :D

So are the BG's a possibility to reduce these sharp highs on my Hagen a little bit whithout a modification?
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Maybe it is the tonal signature of the V30's that you hear.
My advice is to record some stuff using the compenated output, in order to hear just the head. Then you can swap pre's and power tubes to your taste.
 
I would comment on this as soon as the tubes would only arrive. :doh: (Not a problem. I have plenty of tubes, but its retubing-time).
No news from China yet, Peter?
 
QOTSA_Lover":244zdnny said:
Dear Diezel Familiy, thank you very very much for the detailed and fast response :-)

One last Question: How does the BG's handle the upper highs? There are often very painful highs with the STR's, aren't it? But I have to say that I'm playing through a FL Diezel Cab with V30.... :D

So are the BG's a possibility to reduce these sharp highs on my Hagen a little bit whithout a modification?


THX
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If you hear harsh highs with BSTRs, BHTs or BGs installed in any Diezel amp, it is NOT those tubes, but something else in the signal chain like the combination of your guitar, PUs and/or the speakers.
I have had situations myself where harsh highs were caused by the room I was playing in. The bare walls were reflecting and somehow altering the tonality. Back in a more sound proved room all was back to normal.

Jens
 
My herbert mk2 I got last week has Transistors!!!! wft..

jk, it has the EL34B-STR's. Are the EL34-BG newly designed tubes from ruby? Curious technically what the difference is between the two?

will try the BG's when ready for a retube..

Thanks,
Dave
 
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