Distortion & Overdrive pedals - Herbie...

[Docster]

Anyone else notice how, once you upgrade to the Herbert, how you never use overdrive and distortion pedals... ever!

Peter should advertise the Herbert as the amp that saves you $1000 (or more). With my Orange and Mesa heads I was always chasing tones and buying overdrives (Klon, Boiling Point, Tubescreamers, Lovepedals, etc.). Now, I rarely use them. They are great pedals though!

 

[slyvren]

I'm pretty sure this holds true for all diezels. I've always believed the best distortion/overdrive comes from an amp itself. It's hard to make any amp sound sweeter than it does by itself. Although, some amps really do need some help getting there *cough fender cough*. I have an einey and I highly doubt any overdrive or distortion would do anything but take away from it's amazing gain stages. With that said fuzz is fun sometimes.

If you want a different sound try different speakers or a diff cab or better yet get another diezel.

-John

 

[MontyW]

I bought BJFe pedals, Klon and others - my list is far too long. I sold the lot and it funded an Einstein

 

[Profound]

Totally agree. I have a MI Audio Tube Zone. Absolutely great pedal, can be used as a booster, compressor, overdrive but Einy does not need any of these.Nevertheless Tube Zone will stay just to cover our back.

 

[MARK2C]

As for pedals used with the Herbert in general, I do. The amp takes pedals so well it's ridiculous.

Ch. 1- MXR Dyna Comp or Barber Tone Press
Ch. 1 BB Preamp #1- 50% Level, 50% Gain, Treble 10:00- Diezelized Dumble
Ch. 1 Xotic EP Booster, used before or after BB- Diezelized Dumble on Crack
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #3- Full Clean Boost, Gain at 8:30- Think Eric Johnson
Ch. 2- DOD YJM 308- Flutey, Fluid with a little quack
Ch. 2+- EP Booster- Great for a bit of a kick or volume
Ch. 2+ BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost- Searing and Wild

Granted I use low output pickups and 40% less gain than 90% of Herbert users the amp itself
has quite a few sweet spots on it's own where the treble, mids and bass all align for tonal bliss.
Do I have to use pedals, no. I do because I can and I like what I hear. Users choice, the Herbert is incredible to begin with.
It is fun to use OD's to paint different overtones and sometimes compensate for inherent faults in certain guitars.
And yes, I have three BB Preamps.....

 

[van hellion]

As for pedals used with the Herbert in general, I do. The amp takes pedals so well it's ridiculous.

Ch. 1- MXR Dyna Comp or Barber Tone Press
Ch. 1 BB Preamp #1- 50% Level, 50% Gain, Treble 10:00- Diezelized Dumble
Ch. 1 Xotic EP Booster, used before or after BB- Diezelized Dumble on Crack
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #3- Full Clean Boost, Gain at 8:30- Think Eric Johnson
Ch. 2- DOD YJM 308- Flutey, Fluid with a little quack
Ch. 2+- EP Booster- Great for a bit of a kick or volume
Ch. 2+ BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost- Searing and Wild

Granted I use low output pickups and 40% less gain than 90% of Herbert users the amp itself
has quite a few sweet spots on it's own where the treble, mids and bass all align for tonal bliss.
Do I have to use pedals, no. I do because I can and I like what I hear. Users choice, the Herbert is incredible to begin with.
It is fun to use OD's to paint different overtones and sometimes compensate for inherent faults in certain guitars.
And yes, I have three BB Preamps.....

i agree. i love diezels alone, i love em with pedals. there is no wrong way when you achive a good tone, and pedals + a diezel done the right way can achieve some really killer tones.

A Wood

 

[Mailman1971]

I use a Transparent Overdrive in front of the Herbert.
Dont change the Tone at all.....just makes it MORE of the same tone!

 

[MARK2C]

As for pedals used with the Herbert in general, I do. The amp takes pedals so well it's ridiculous.

Ch. 1- MXR Dyna Comp or Barber Tone Press
Ch. 1 BB Preamp #1- 50% Level, 50% Gain, Treble 10:00- Diezelized Dumble
Ch. 1 Xotic EP Booster, used before or after BB- Diezelized Dumble on Crack
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #3- Full Clean Boost, Gain at 8:30- Think Eric Johnson
Ch. 2- DOD YJM 308- Flutey, Fluid with a little quack
Ch. 2+- EP Booster- Great for a bit of a kick or volume
Ch. 2+ BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost- Searing and Wild

Granted I use low output pickups and 40% less gain than 90% of Herbert users the amp itself
has quite a few sweet spots on it's own where the treble, mids and bass all align for tonal bliss.
Do I have to use pedals, no. I do because I can and I like what I hear. Users choice, the Herbert is incredible to begin with.
It is fun to use OD's to paint different overtones and sometimes compensate for inherent faults in certain guitars.
And yes, I have three BB Preamps.....

i agree. i love diezels alone, i love em with pedals. there is no wrong way when you achive a good tone, and pedals + a diezel done the right way can achieve some really killer tones.

A Wood

I would hope you would agree, when you did your rig run through I stole all of your settings !!!!!
As soon as I get my Suhr Andy Wood Signature I will have it ALL...

 

[base341]

I love my bb pre amp with the gain just cracked open on channel one.

 

[Spaceboy]

Herbert doesn't need a boost? I've got to play one of these sons of bitches...

 

[Docster]

Herbert doesn't need a boost? I've got to play one of these sons of bitches...

I don't disagree that adding a little something on Ch1 may add dimension/coloring for a signature sound, but I don't play much on Ch1. On Ch 3, boosting does little or nothing as the Herbie is already there

 

[Hard&Heavy]

Diezel = no boost or distortion pedals needed.

 

[nbarts]

Fuck pedals, I use 23K pickups

 

[RJF]

Yep, Herbert doesn't need any kind of boosting. It's already super tight on it's own and very crunchy. I've noticed the same with ENGL amps too, no need for a boost.

Boost pedals are a pain in the butt to deal with anyway in my opinion.

 

[van hellion]

As for pedals used with the Herbert in general, I do. The amp takes pedals so well it's ridiculous.

Ch. 1- MXR Dyna Comp or Barber Tone Press
Ch. 1 BB Preamp #1- 50% Level, 50% Gain, Treble 10:00- Diezelized Dumble
Ch. 1 Xotic EP Booster, used before or after BB- Diezelized Dumble on Crack
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #3- Full Clean Boost, Gain at 8:30- Think Eric Johnson
Ch. 2- DOD YJM 308- Flutey, Fluid with a little quack
Ch. 2+- EP Booster- Great for a bit of a kick or volume
Ch. 2+ BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost- Searing and Wild

Granted I use low output pickups and 40% less gain than 90% of Herbert users the amp itself
has quite a few sweet spots on it's own where the treble, mids and bass all align for tonal bliss.
Do I have to use pedals, no. I do because I can and I like what I hear. Users choice, the Herbert is incredible to begin with.
It is fun to use OD's to paint different overtones and sometimes compensate for inherent faults in certain guitars.
And yes, I have three BB Preamps.....

i agree. i love diezels alone, i love em with pedals. there is no wrong way when you achive a good tone, and pedals + a diezel done the right way can achieve some really killer tones.

A Wood

I would hope you would agree, when you did your rig run through I stole all of your settings !!!!!
As soon as I get my Suhr Andy Wood Signature I will have it ALL...

check with Suhr at the winter NAMM.... thats all im allowed to say

A Wood

 

[MARK2C]

As for pedals used with the Herbert in general, I do. The amp takes pedals so well it's ridiculous.

Ch. 1- MXR Dyna Comp or Barber Tone Press
Ch. 1 BB Preamp #1- 50% Level, 50% Gain, Treble 10:00- Diezelized Dumble
Ch. 1 Xotic EP Booster, used before or after BB- Diezelized Dumble on Crack
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost
Ch. 2- BB Preamp #3- Full Clean Boost, Gain at 8:30- Think Eric Johnson
Ch. 2- DOD YJM 308- Flutey, Fluid with a little quack
Ch. 2+- EP Booster- Great for a bit of a kick or volume
Ch. 2+ BB Preamp #2- Full Clean Boost- Searing and Wild

Granted I use low output pickups and 40% less gain than 90% of Herbert users the amp itself
has quite a few sweet spots on it's own where the treble, mids and bass all align for tonal bliss.
Do I have to use pedals, no. I do because I can and I like what I hear. Users choice, the Herbert is incredible to begin with.
It is fun to use OD's to paint different overtones and sometimes compensate for inherent faults in certain guitars.
And yes, I have three BB Preamps.....

i agree. i love diezels alone, i love em with pedals. there is no wrong way when you achive a good tone, and pedals + a diezel done the right way can achieve some really killer tones.

A Wood

I would hope you would agree, when you did your rig run through I stole all of your settings !!!!!
As soon as I get my Suhr Andy Wood Signature I will have it ALL...

check with Suhr at the winter NAMM.... thats all im allowed to say

A Wood

No way !!! A Modern with a built in Mandolin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ventura]

Fuck pedals, I use 23K pickups

V.

 

[A-T]

Eleven Electrix Overdrive !

 

[Peter Diezel]

Fuck pedals, I use 23K pickups

So You don´t need an amp. Plug the cab into the guitar

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I have only found OD's useful with my Diezel for unity gain tone shaping.

Diezels need no level boosting as they are already at the sweet spot.