HerbieBoogie
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Does any one have any suggestions on good quality efx to put into my Herbie loop (hopefully not too expensive ones)
thx
thx
PaulyPanacea
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i use a TC Electronics G Major. Works just fine. I know that the G Systems are killer too...but the difference is over $1000.00. 
Duolos
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scottph
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Rocktron Xpression. 
sickgoose
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TC Electronics Nova System (very) good quality effects.....low price!
I use it in te effectsloop of my VH4S........with 2 cabs.....amazing stereo effects!!!
I use it in te effectsloop of my VH4S........with 2 cabs.....amazing stereo effects!!!
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Anonymous
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I second the Nova System. If you are only using it for the effects in the Herbert's loop, at $499, it is the smallest, most versatile, quality piece of effects gear I can think of.
I use one with all of my Diezels.
The G-Force is about $1,400, as is the G-System, and they are far more complicated and need a controller. I had a G-Force, and like the Nova System far better.
I use one with all of my Diezels.
The G-Force is about $1,400, as is the G-System, and they are far more complicated and need a controller. I had a G-Force, and like the Nova System far better.
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bognerluv
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I will 3rd the Nova System. I use it in the loop of the Herbert. I also use it to change the channels, mid-cut, etc. based on the pre-set. The midi capability is not the ultimate but it works well enough for me. Just takes some time to plan out the presets so you can get the midi PC changes to go when you need them. Makes for great effects/foot controller in a very small, simple, and portable package.
Ailean
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Wow TC are getting a lot of love 
We have a TC Electronic G-System for our VH4, awsome bit of kit. Sell everything else, get a G-System, a recording snake and a MIDI cable. Take a bit of time to get it set up right. Bathe in glorious tone that you can recall at the tap of a foot.
We have a TC Electronic G-System for our VH4, awsome bit of kit. Sell everything else, get a G-System, a recording snake and a MIDI cable. Take a bit of time to get it set up right. Bathe in glorious tone that you can recall at the tap of a foot.
HerbieBoogie
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bognerluv":3hoib59g said:
Ailean":3hoib59g said:Wow TC are getting a lot of love
We have a TC Electronic G-System for our VH4, awsome bit of kit. Sell everything else, get a G-System, a recording snake and a MIDI cable. Take a bit of time to get it set up right. Bathe in glorious tone that you can recall at the tap of a foot.
How does the chorus sound???
duesentrieb
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Here's my take on it, units I have/had:
Major I : crappy build, always runs in stereo mode, built in tuner is nice though, delays are nice, chorus isn't "deep" enough IMO
Major II: better built, no idea if it also runs in stereo mode all the time, intel. pitch shifting, tuner
Xpression: delays and verbs are typical Rocktron-ish (mediocre), TAP-LEDs is annoying, for less I'd get a I-fex, which has a better chorus, although Rocktron units are a pain to edit IMO, no tuner
Replifex/Multivalve: better (because cheaper) units than the Xpression, discontinued, see above
AxeFX: well . . . FX like Eventide, excellent 2290 sim., awesome verbs and super fast and accurate tracking harmonizer, tuner
Major I : crappy build, always runs in stereo mode, built in tuner is nice though, delays are nice, chorus isn't "deep" enough IMO
Major II: better built, no idea if it also runs in stereo mode all the time, intel. pitch shifting, tuner
Xpression: delays and verbs are typical Rocktron-ish (mediocre), TAP-LEDs is annoying, for less I'd get a I-fex, which has a better chorus, although Rocktron units are a pain to edit IMO, no tuner
Replifex/Multivalve: better (because cheaper) units than the Xpression, discontinued, see above
AxeFX: well . . . FX like Eventide, excellent 2290 sim., awesome verbs and super fast and accurate tracking harmonizer, tuner
scottph
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Wah....? It's a pain to edit the Xpression? Dude, it's about as easy as it get's for such a complex unit... 
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Anonymous
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HerbieBoogie":1hormwv2 said:
Chorus, as with any effect depends on the user's ears as to whether or not you will like it.
I use my effects sparingly. I don't prefer a thick chorus, but rather a clearer, more transparent sounding one. Due to the flexibility of the Nova System, I actually used a tremolo effect, slowed it down, and got a chorus-like tone from it that is great. I did this on another patch with the chorus as well.
Since different companies offer their own versions of each effect, a preference for one effect over the same effect from another company is sure to be made by a given user.
If this is the case, you might be better to have individual pedals, which give you the exact effect type and sound you prefer, or get a Fractal Axe-FX, which have terrific sounding effects.
Others desire portability as well as quality and can get from one multi-effect unit, good quality sounds that satisfy their needs and ears. It's really a personal call, and how you are able to dial in exactly what you like to hear.
For me, the TC Nova System offers far more then I will ever use or need. In a studio, the engineer can dial in whatever the producer wants from the gear they have there.
HerbieBoogie
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can the TC Nova System be used to change the channels on the Herbert?
HerbieBoogie
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does any one know if the tc nova sytem can be used to change the chanels on the herbert
Ailean
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Looks like it's a MIDI controller so I'd say yes it can control the Herbert. I don't own either (VH4 and G-System here) so I won't say 100%, but I'm 99% certain.
sickgoose
Member
Well it works great on my VH4, so I guess it will work on the Herbert as well.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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bognerluv
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HerbieBoogie":3a1ro86h said:
I use it to change channels on my Herbert. I have presets setup and send midi PCs to change to the channel I want for the preset. I also have presets where V2 gets engaged, MidCut is engaged, etc. Works like a champ with the Herbert.
bronz79
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duesentrieb":27yj3ln3 said:
How does it sound in the 4 cable method? any noise issues like G-system?..on the fractal forum i've seen many
threads about hiss/hum..like in the TC forum.
Is the fractal axe fx comparable to the eclipse or to the h7600?
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MrNixon
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Hey,
Eventide FX are excellent - that should go without saying. Ive had a Timefactor for some time now, and recently got a Pitchfactor; both have this pristine quality...
If you've never dealt with guitar FX, one could really lose themselves with them. They are my favorite part of people's rigs.
Here is a short list of FX that would go great with a Diezel. I'm not even gonna bother with gain-based pedals, but Fuzz and Boost are two dirty fx that would bode well with a Diezel- i'll try to keep their pricepoints relatively affordable:
Delay-
Eventide Timefactor/Empress Superdelay (http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/P ... actor.aspx)(http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php)
- these are the two 'alpha-omega' delay pedals. they do it all, and they sound great. The Eventide has a lot of features that the Superdelay is lacking (at least 10 presets compared to the 8 on the empress, LED readout allowing for perfect settings, many more), but the Superdelay has a tone that a lot of people prefer. I would compare it to watching a BluRay disc vs. watching something on 8mm film, but not that extreme. The Eventide is a very pristine sound (even on the models with intended sampling artifacts/tape delay) whereas the Empress has a musicality to the warmth.
if dropping 300+ on a Delay Pedal is hefty, check out
The MXR Carbon Copy (analog delay, ~550ms, EHX Memory Man voiced),
The Ibanez DE7 (Digital Delay w/Tape mode - For $89.99 it is almost a no-brainer. This was my first delay pedal after i grew out of my Korg AX1000G)
Line 6 DL4 - This has become the performing standard for current delay pedals.
I also hear good things about the Digitech Timebender (or something)... its Digitechs attempt at the market that the Eventide/Empress pedals have occupied.
Modulation/Chorus/Phase/Flange
Flange - Ibanez Paul Gilbert Airplane Flange - Does everything from subtle rotary-speaker flanging to CRAZY. Sells for $150ish IIRC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkUfPUKilWI - sick vid of Paul demoing the first edition along w/the prototype (which sounds miles better)
Phase - MXR Script Phase 90 - Standard Phaser, but sounds great!
Chorus - The Airplane Flange does this as well. Honestly its not my bag - i'd rather get a flanger and use that. The Eventide has a great chorus setting on all three of the _Factor pedals.
Fuzz
This is where people go CRAZY on HCFX. There are so many fuzz pedals its out of hand. Here are my favorites (i'm keeping all of these in the $150.00 range
Big Muffs (includes Swollen Pickle, Skreddy fuzzes) - Great lead tone (think David Gilmour) and explosive when used for a rhythm approach (Smashing Pumpkins, naturally) Right now I'm running a Swollen Pickle, which is absolutely HUGE compared to your run-o-the-mill BM.
Tonebender - My favorite fuzztone; i used to have a Fulltone Soulbender, and how i do miss it. Fulltone's discontinued their Germanium-based fuzzes... so I kind of lost to my naiveity. MJM makes a spot-on copy called the Britbender... I'd like to make one mine in the near future... idk i may just build my next one
Wacky glitchy fuzzes are a niche-y crowd. There is a good number of them now, but the flagship wacky fuzz is the ZVex Fuzz Factory. I've owned the ZVex Vexter series Fuzz Factory TWICE, only to sell it, with no loss. They're fun at home and in the studio, but not the best pedal to bring out live.
so theres the abridged version of 'Stuff Marc Likes'. Obviously the list goes on ad infinitum, but those are some FX that would go great Into a diezel. Remember, although you always get what you pay for, I've run into some SWEET fx for dirt cheap. My vintage MXR Flanger i got @ Guitar Center for $20.00. Toys R' Us was selling an Analog Delay pedal for $40.00! I still think about going in and buying one. Wal-Mart sold low-end Fender product, and the Starcaster pedals they put out for $20-$40.00 were excellent for the price. They had them for maybe 2-3 months, and they are very scarce now... they could fetch quadruple their price in a few years.
Eventide FX are excellent - that should go without saying. Ive had a Timefactor for some time now, and recently got a Pitchfactor; both have this pristine quality...
If you've never dealt with guitar FX, one could really lose themselves with them. They are my favorite part of people's rigs.
Here is a short list of FX that would go great with a Diezel. I'm not even gonna bother with gain-based pedals, but Fuzz and Boost are two dirty fx that would bode well with a Diezel- i'll try to keep their pricepoints relatively affordable:
Delay-
Eventide Timefactor/Empress Superdelay (http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/P ... actor.aspx)(http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php)
- these are the two 'alpha-omega' delay pedals. they do it all, and they sound great. The Eventide has a lot of features that the Superdelay is lacking (at least 10 presets compared to the 8 on the empress, LED readout allowing for perfect settings, many more), but the Superdelay has a tone that a lot of people prefer. I would compare it to watching a BluRay disc vs. watching something on 8mm film, but not that extreme. The Eventide is a very pristine sound (even on the models with intended sampling artifacts/tape delay) whereas the Empress has a musicality to the warmth.
if dropping 300+ on a Delay Pedal is hefty, check out
The MXR Carbon Copy (analog delay, ~550ms, EHX Memory Man voiced),
The Ibanez DE7 (Digital Delay w/Tape mode - For $89.99 it is almost a no-brainer. This was my first delay pedal after i grew out of my Korg AX1000G)
Line 6 DL4 - This has become the performing standard for current delay pedals.
I also hear good things about the Digitech Timebender (or something)... its Digitechs attempt at the market that the Eventide/Empress pedals have occupied.
Modulation/Chorus/Phase/Flange
Flange - Ibanez Paul Gilbert Airplane Flange - Does everything from subtle rotary-speaker flanging to CRAZY. Sells for $150ish IIRC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkUfPUKilWI - sick vid of Paul demoing the first edition along w/the prototype (which sounds miles better)
Phase - MXR Script Phase 90 - Standard Phaser, but sounds great!
Chorus - The Airplane Flange does this as well. Honestly its not my bag - i'd rather get a flanger and use that. The Eventide has a great chorus setting on all three of the _Factor pedals.
Fuzz
This is where people go CRAZY on HCFX. There are so many fuzz pedals its out of hand. Here are my favorites (i'm keeping all of these in the $150.00 range
Big Muffs (includes Swollen Pickle, Skreddy fuzzes) - Great lead tone (think David Gilmour) and explosive when used for a rhythm approach (Smashing Pumpkins, naturally) Right now I'm running a Swollen Pickle, which is absolutely HUGE compared to your run-o-the-mill BM.
Tonebender - My favorite fuzztone; i used to have a Fulltone Soulbender, and how i do miss it. Fulltone's discontinued their Germanium-based fuzzes... so I kind of lost to my naiveity. MJM makes a spot-on copy called the Britbender... I'd like to make one mine in the near future... idk i may just build my next one
Wacky glitchy fuzzes are a niche-y crowd. There is a good number of them now, but the flagship wacky fuzz is the ZVex Fuzz Factory. I've owned the ZVex Vexter series Fuzz Factory TWICE, only to sell it, with no loss. They're fun at home and in the studio, but not the best pedal to bring out live.
so theres the abridged version of 'Stuff Marc Likes'. Obviously the list goes on ad infinitum, but those are some FX that would go great Into a diezel. Remember, although you always get what you pay for, I've run into some SWEET fx for dirt cheap. My vintage MXR Flanger i got @ Guitar Center for $20.00. Toys R' Us was selling an Analog Delay pedal for $40.00! I still think about going in and buying one. Wal-Mart sold low-end Fender product, and the Starcaster pedals they put out for $20-$40.00 were excellent for the price. They had them for maybe 2-3 months, and they are very scarce now... they could fetch quadruple their price in a few years.