EG3/4 Gig Experience?

[richedie]

Hey guys,

Anyone have some expererience with the EG3/4 in a band context? I typically only bring one module to rehearsal because it is less to carry, but don't want to show up with something that will not cut through. I think it would be fantastic for lead and if they ever release the E2, problem will be solved. However, at home I think the EG3/4 does anything from the classic to modern if tweaked correctly. My fear is the cut factor on rhythm. Any EG3/4 giggers in the house?

-Rich

 

[3 Mile Stone]

I think it does fine. I run my mids at about 1 - 2 o'clock and highs at about 2 - 3. It is a thick sound, it's supposed to be. So to say it "cuts" well, maybe it doesn't. I can hear it, and I like the way it sounds. It probably does not part slice through liek a EG5 or SL2. If you have doubts, take the spare mod with you. They are pretty small.

 

[RockStarNick]

The big Q is: What is the other guitar player (if any) playing?

For me, personally, I think the SL2 works better in the context of MY band (with Matt and his EG5).

That being said, you can tweak the EG3/4 to cut if you need to. No problem.

 

[sumis]

The big Q is: What is the other guitar player (if any) playing?

+1. if in a two guitar band it might not be ideal. in a band with one guitar and perhaps not even keys, it would be fine. but it's a question of what type of music and arrangements as well.

i love the eg3/4 lead tone, but i use the eg5 in a metal band i'm currently working with. used the eg4 for one solo on the last record, and the eg5 for five. i do prefer the eg4, but with heavy riffing behind the lead guitar, the eg5 is the winner.

by itself, i find the eg5 lacks in lower midrange. in a two guitar metal context, it's just lovely.

i like both channels of the eg3/4 for lead. sometimes the eg3 is the way to go. with some boost, it's heaven.

the speaker means a lot here as well.

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[richedie]

The lack of low mids was why I got rid of the EG5, but may eventually get another and have it modded with a touch more lower mids. I prefer a softer feel and that is what I liked about the MHG and the EG3/4.

I think Eric ran bass and treble boost at 1, bass ar 12:30, mids at 11:00 and treble at 2.

I'll play around and see what works.

The other guitarist is still trying to figure out his amp situation. Right now he runs an old Line 6 50 watt spider combo and I swallow him up when I play. He complained about not being able to hear himself. He ran through the PA and it was still hard to hear him - plus I know he is a mids scooper! I like mine around noon and he said that is too much! I was like, no way man, that is my sound and it works....time to ditch the spider.
Everyone else in the band was blown away by my tone when I ran the Erect for everything, except the other guitarist who said I had mids too high at noon! Then I was told I was too loud even though other told me to turn up so they could hear me over the drums. See a pattern here?

Anyway, we'll see how it goes.

When I was in another band I had the MHG and it worked but I had jam sessions since where the MHG got a bit lost and sounded SMALL in the mix, wow! Yet, I watched a guy use it live, while his bandmate played through a Fender combo and the MHG sounded huge! So you never know.

 

[bstaley]

All I do for my MHG is add a hi-shelf filter starting at 1k and boost 2-3db. It cuts through just fine and is my main Lead patch.

 

[aeroic]

The lack of low mids was why I got rid of the EG5, but may eventually get another and have it modded with a touch more lower mids. I prefer a softer feel and that is what I liked about the MHG and the EG3/4.

I think Eric ran bass and treble boost at 1, bass ar 12:30, mids at 11:00 and treble at 2.

I'll play around and see what works.

The other guitarist is still trying to figure out his amp situation. Right now he runs an old Line 6 50 watt spider combo and I swallow him up when I play. He complained about not being able to hear himself. He ran through the PA and it was still hard to hear him - plus I know he is a mids scooper! I like mine around noon and he said that is too much! I was like, no way man, that is my sound and it works....time to ditch the spider.
Everyone else in the band was blown away by my tone when I ran the Erect for everything, except the other guitarist who said I had mids too high at noon! Then I was told I was too loud even though other told me to turn up so they could hear me over the drums. See a pattern here?

Anyway, we'll see how it goes.

When I was in another band I had the MHG and it worked but I had jam sessions since where the MHG got a bit lost and sounded SMALL in the mix, wow! Yet, I watched a guy use it live, while his bandmate played through a Fender combo and the MHG sounded huge! So you never know.

On my EG5 I normally run my Bass boost on 1, and treble boost off. I run the treble at 2 oclock, mids at 10-11 oclock, bass at 2 oclock...

EG3/4 I modded the cap which made the high end roll off less...so I'd run the bass and treble at noon...and the mids at about 11 oclock...bass / bright were off...sometimes I'd run the bass at position 1.

Eric

 

[EWSEthan]

Eric, have you tried bass boost on 2? It really transforms the module. I wont run it any other way.

 

[RockStarNick]

Ah, I forgot. I modded my EG3/4 too.

I know that "modding modules" is kinda taboo around here, based on previous threads and topics.

But Rich, if you love the EG3/4, but want a little more cut on top, a little more high end sheen. Swap that big ol' Silver Mica 1000pf cap out for a 500pf or 250pf, and there ya go.

Still doesn't sound like an SL2. But, it kinda has more of that upper presence, while still retaining the EG3/4 lower mid fullness.

(PM me if you want the full details on how to do it.)

 

[jmgman69]

Eric, have you tried bass boost on 2? It really transforms the module. I wont run it any other way.

It sounds huge like this,without it ,it doesn't!!!

 

[aeroic]

Eric, have you tried bass boost on 2? It really transforms the module. I wont run it any other way.

I have....with the VHT 2/90/2, 6550s and G12K100s...you really don't need it. It sounds awesome on Bass Boost 1. Very warm...and big sounding and similar to what you are doing w/ the Mod50. W/ my Mod50...and 6550s I sometimes do go to Bass Boost 2...but my EG5 mainly lives in my M4...

 

[muudrock]

I have used the EG3/4 many times live and it has been great. I've used it in both 1 and 2 guitar situations and haven't had any issues with it cutting. I probably have more compliments on the overall tone using that module. It just sounds great mic'd up and loud. I tend to preferr a bit of a darker overall tone, so I don't boost highs. It still cuts no problem--specially with V30s.

 

[richedie]

That settles it, I am going to use it.

I still don't hear a big difference between channel 3 and 4 compared to the difference I hear in the SL2.

 

[muudrock]

That settles it, I am going to use it.

I still don't hear a big difference between channel 3 and 4 compared to the difference I hear in the SL2.

Ch B seems to have some more highs and upper mids to my ears, not alot, but some. Makes it jump a out of the speaker a little more. Ch A has is just fat and warm, no matter what.

 

[richedie]

That settles it, I am going to use it.

I still don't hear a big difference between channel 3 and 4 compared to the difference I hear in the SL2.

Ch B seems to have some more highs and upper mids to my ears, not alot, but some. Makes it jump a out of the speaker a little more. Ch A has is just fat and warm, no matter what.

Yea, you know I was thinking of using channel B for rhythm and A for lead.

 

[3 Mile Stone]

That settles it, I am going to use it.

I still don't hear a big difference between channel 3 and 4 compared to the difference I hear in the SL2.

Ch B seems to have some more highs and upper mids to my ears, not alot, but some. Makes it jump a out of the speaker a little more. Ch A has is just fat and warm, no matter what.

Yea, you know I was thinking of using channel B for rhythm and A for lead.

I did the same thing for years when I had an IE4. The tighter 4 channel was dialed down for hard rtm, channel 3 with a boost for leads. Loved it.

 

[richedie]

I jammed last night and the EG3 side is unreal for lead! I hope this works for me, I want channel B(4) to work for rhythm. The only fear is I prefer alnico II bridge pickups for warmth and I hope the combination of this and the EG4 warmth/darkness still cuts.

 

[RockStarNick]

I just jammed with some people last night, and my EG3/4 was cutting just fine. Just had to crank the presence up a hair higher than where I usually do for the SL2. But the leads sounded incredible.

 

[jmgman69]

I just jammed with some people last night, and my EG3/4 was cutting just fine. Just had to crank the presence up a hair higher than where I usually do for the SL2. But the leads sounded incredible.

The leads on that module alone are worth every penny,and also why I left it alone