EG3 and EG3/4 settings Q.

[RockStarNick]

Is it just the nature of the beast, on the EG3 (or EG3/4) that you really gotta crank that treble to about 3:00 to get it to have some bite? When I listen with my ears, it sounds great, but then I look at the controls, and I say "wow, that's weird, I'd never guess to set it like that"

Q FOR JEFF OR BRUCE (or anyone)... Should I ever want MORE treble, can this EG3 be easily modded?

Thanks dudes.

 

[broknstuff]

Well I guess the eg3/4 is suppose to be Egnater''s take on a marshall with a smoother top end, so that may be why you are cranking your treble. But either way, it doesn't matter how the EQ controls looks, it's all about the final sound at the end. I know it can be hard to want to EQ with your eyes, I've been guilty of that before. I have an eg3/4 coming in the mail and can't wait. If you are looking for more bite, then check out the SL2: great lead tone with bite.

 

[muudrock]

Nick, Check your pms.

The dual channel EG3/4 has a different voicing than the single channel EG3--not quite as dark. Like he said, eq with your ears, not your eyes.

 

[Valtiel]

While I dont crank the treble much, I do always have the Bright switch on "1". I love the Bright and Bass boost switches on the modules, too many other amps that I have owned with similar switches have a stupidly dramatic affect. The Bright switch on the EG3/4 gives me that nice little bit of bite without changing its inherent smokey smoothness.

 

[RockStarNick]

Thanks for the replies so far guys. Anyone know anything about resistor values, and a possible treble "mod"?

Is that not PC to talk about around here? Modding a module?

 

[muudrock]

Thanks for the replies so far guys. Anyone know anything about resistor values, and a possible treble "mod"?

Is that not PC to talk about around here? Modding a module?

Call Jeff. They can mod it to what you need.

 

[RockStarNick]

In an effort to save cash, I'd *probably* try to do it myself if it was easy enough. If it's a complicated procedure, I'd just send it back in to the shop though.

I've done quite a few successful resistor/cap swaps on pedals (back in my tubescreamer modding days), so I'm fairly confident soldering on PC boards.

 

[jkdsteve]

On my EG3/4, I remember the prior owners EQ settings had the Bright switch on either 1 or 2 and the Treble at 3 to make it 'bite' ....

...I dialed it back 'coz I like the dark/smooth/smoky tone of it..makes it distinct from the SL2.

 

[RockStarNick]

The single channel EG3 only has a one position bright switch, which to my ears, doesn't really do much...

All is not lost though... the module has qualities which I love, and I know that with some slight tweaking and modding, it'll be perfect.

 

[aeroic]

So I just got my EG3/4 today, and man...is it bad ass . The first one I got right when I got my Egnater gear, and I really wasn't as sure of what I was doing w/ it and fully comfortable with it. Well, I pulled out the SL2 and put the EG3/4 in. Slapped a Chinese 12ax7a in V1 and a Tungsol 12ax7 in V2. Set the bass on 1 and the bright on 1, bass at 12:30, mids at 11, and treble at 12:30, gain at 2 on ChB and 11;30 on ChA. Hit the patch that normally is my lead tone on the MPXG2 (delay is the only effect) and flipped over to ChB of the EG3/4 and pretty much crapped my pants there on the spot. Think of a "brown note" but...instead a "brown tone"...meaning.. a tone that makes you literally crap your pants right then and there.

Well...that's what the EG4 is for soloing. I really liked the rolled off highs vs the SL2. It's a tighter module that just has tons more mojo with it. The mids are syrupy and smooth, yet with just enough bite and growl. The low end is very tight and punchy. I much prefered it for solo tones compared to the SL2, which I absolutely loved. I wanted to get that singing type solo tone, and it nailed it. The only complaint I've ever had about the SL2 is that on a neck pickup on a strat, it was a bit too boomy and loose on the low end. Not a lot, just enough to kinda bother me a little. Well, the EG3/4 took the SL2, and tightened the low end up a bit, and with the rounder highs, it lets the mids punch out more and create that "singing" sound.

The EG3 I'm using more for a medium gain sound that I use with modulated effects. It really works well for phasers and flangers because of the rounded highs, which makes the modulated effects have a bit more warmth and space.

So, I'm gonna keep A/B'ing them for a few more days, but I might consider parting w/ my SL2 because of my new found love for the EG3/4. We shall see .

Eric

 

[muudrock]

So I just got my EG3/4 today, and man...is it bad ass . The first one I got right when I got my Egnater gear, and I really wasn't as sure of what I was doing w/ it and fully comfortable with it. Well, I pulled out the SL2 and put the EG3/4 in. Slapped a Chinese 12ax7a in V1 and a Tungsol 12ax7 in V2. Set the bass on 1 and the bright on 1, bass at 12:30, mids at 11, and treble at 12:30, gain at 2 on ChB and 11;30 on ChA. Hit the patch that normally is my lead tone on the MPXG2 (delay is the only effect) and flipped over to ChB of the EG3/4 and pretty much crapped my pants there on the spot. Think of a "brown note" but...instead a "brown tone"...meaning.. a tone that makes you literally crap your pants right then and there.

Well...that's what the EG4 is for soloing. I really liked the rolled off highs vs the SL2. It's a tighter module that just has tons more mojo with it. The mids are syrupy and smooth, yet with just enough bite and growl. The low end is very tight and punchy. I much prefered it for solo tones compared to the SL2, which I absolutely loved. I wanted to get that singing type solo tone, and it nailed it. The only complaint I've ever had about the SL2 is that on a neck pickup on a strat, it was a bit too boomy and loose on the low end. Not a lot, just enough to kinda bother me a little. Well, the EG3/4 took the SL2, and tightened the low end up a bit, and with the rounder highs, it lets the mids punch out more and create that "singing" sound.

The EG3 I'm using more for a medium gain sound that I use with modulated effects. It really works well for phasers and flangers because of the rounded highs, which makes the modulated effects have a bit more warmth and space.

So, I'm gonna keep A/B'ing them for a few more days, but I might consider parting w/ my SL2 because of my new found love for the EG3/4. We shall see .

Eric

Another EG 3/4 convert---Can I get an AMEN!!!
This has been my favorite modern sound since I got it. I get great lead tones from channel A with the gain up. Darker and warmer than channel B. I also find that channel B does great modern heavy, detuned stuff as well.
Enjoy it.

 

[richedie]

Eric, I thought you had the EG3/4 and sold it after comparing to your SL2????

Either, I have both and love both. I could never sell either. The SL2 to me is the ultimate Marshall tone and can't part with it ever. That said, the EG3/4 is a smoother, darker take on it and I think it does rhythm and lead well. I just use a neutral EQ and use a boost in the loop for leads on either channel. I don't see it as just a solo module. With the SL2 and EG3/4, I don't miss my MHG much, LOL.

 

[broknstuff]

Thanks for those settings Eric, mine should arrive within the next few days and I can't wait to try it out after that description! Do you usually use a chinese in v1 and tung sol in v2 for all your modules, or was there a reason why you went with that combo? I've never messed around with preamp tubes but I think I might be a pair of a few of the popular ones to maybe screw around on a slow weekend. I am pretty damn happy with my tone so i'm thinking "if it ain't broken, don't fix it", but may get a few for backup at least.

 

[Valtiel]

So I just got my EG3/4 today, and man...is it bad ass . The first one I got right when I got my Egnater gear, and I really wasn't as sure of what I was doing w/ it and fully comfortable with it. Well, I pulled out the SL2 and put the EG3/4 in. Slapped a Chinese 12ax7a in V1 and a Tungsol 12ax7 in V2. Set the bass on 1 and the bright on 1, bass at 12:30, mids at 11, and treble at 12:30, gain at 2 on ChB and 11;30 on ChA. Hit the patch that normally is my lead tone on the MPXG2 (delay is the only effect) and flipped over to ChB of the EG3/4 and pretty much crapped my pants there on the spot. Think of a "brown note" but...instead a "brown tone"...meaning.. a tone that makes you literally crap your pants right then and there.

Well...that's what the EG4 is for soloing. I really liked the rolled off highs vs the SL2. It's a tighter module that just has tons more mojo with it. The mids are syrupy and smooth, yet with just enough bite and growl. The low end is very tight and punchy. I much prefered it for solo tones compared to the SL2, which I absolutely loved. I wanted to get that singing type solo tone, and it nailed it. The only complaint I've ever had about the SL2 is that on a neck pickup on a strat, it was a bit too boomy and loose on the low end. Not a lot, just enough to kinda bother me a little. Well, the EG3/4 took the SL2, and tightened the low end up a bit, and with the rounder highs, it lets the mids punch out more and create that "singing" sound.

The EG3 I'm using more for a medium gain sound that I use with modulated effects. It really works well for phasers and flangers because of the rounded highs, which makes the modulated effects have a bit more warmth and space.

So, I'm gonna keep A/B'ing them for a few more days, but I might consider parting w/ my SL2 because of my new found love for the EG3/4. We shall see .

Eric

Another EG 3/4 convert---Can I get an AMEN!!!
This has been my favorite modern sound since I got it. I get great lead tones from channel A with the gain up. Darker and warmer than channel B. I also find that channel B does great modern heavy, detuned stuff as well.
Enjoy it.

You're damn right, AMEN!!!!

I love the EG for just about everything. I usually kick on an 808 in front to give it a boost if im using it for rhythm. I really want to try a BB in front of it though. Definitely a keeper, I could never see myself parting with it.

 

[aeroic]

Thanks for those settings Eric, mine should arrive within the next few days and I can't wait to try it out after that description! Do you usually use a chinese in v1 and tung sol in v2 for all your modules, or was there a reason why you went with that combo? I've never messed around with preamp tubes but I think I might be a pair of a few of the popular ones to maybe screw around on a slow weekend. I am pretty damn happy with my tone so i'm thinking "if it ain't broken, don't fix it", but may get a few for backup at least.

I use one Chinese 12ax7a in either V1 or V2 of the EG5, EG3/4, and SL2. It tightens up the module a bit, and adds a different character to the module. It gives the module a bit more gain, and depth to it that I just love. The Tungsol 12ax7 is my "jack of all trades" preamp tube. I use that in a lot of different situations. In my COD it has 2 TS 12ax7s for example. In my SL I use a Tungsol 12ax7 in V1 but a Electro Harmonix 12ax7EH in V2 to warm up ChB a little.

I did a lot of tube tests w/ different tubes in different positions, and found I liked the TungSol overall as a good tube, and the Ruby 12ax7a's or the Chinese 12ax7a's for high gain.

 

[aeroic]

Is it just the nature of the beast, on the EG3 (or EG3/4) that you really gotta crank that treble to about 3:00 to get it to have some bite? When I listen with my ears, it sounds great, but then I look at the controls, and I say "wow, that's weird, I'd never guess to set it like that"

Q FOR JEFF OR BRUCE (or anyone)... Should I ever want MORE treble, can this EG3 be easily modded?

Assuming that the EG3 is built on a "Brit Board" layout, how hard would it be to "mod" it to get some more treble? I love tinkering around with stuff like that. Would it involve more than swapping out a resistor or two? Can anyone provide info on what values I'd need to swap out? I'd gladly do it myself...

Thanks dudes.

I'll tell ya Nick, tube choices really can affect the tone of the EG3/4. Put a Chinese 12ax7a in V1, and you'll be surprised how much bite it gets compared to the stock Sovtek tubes. I run a Chinese in V1 and a TS 12ax7 in V2, and it sounds amazing.

 

[aeroic]

Eric, I thought you had the EG3/4 and sold it after comparing to your SL2????

Either, I have both and love both. I could never sell either. The SL2 to me is the ultimate Marshall tone and can't part with it ever. That said, the EG3/4 is a smoother, darker take on it and I think it does rhythm and lead well. I just use a neutral EQ and use a boost in the loop for leads on either channel. I don't see it as just a solo module. With the SL2 and EG3/4, I don't miss my MHG much, LOL.

I did compare them early on when I switched to Egnater. But, at that time the EG3/4 was too dark for me. Come to find out, the speaker and cab combo I was using was probably the biggest of issues. The EG3/4 w/ CL80's...holy shit man...they sound soo damn good. I'll tell ya, I think you would have liked the EG5 w/ CL80's compared to the sugars or the green machines. Bruce has done a good job making all the modules sound amazing through the CL80's. Those and the K100's are my favorite speakers to date. The K100's do the "hard rock / metal" better than the CL80's. The CL80's are just all around friggin awesome. They make my EG5 sound friggin amazing . I'm done w/ G12T75s now after trying CL80's out again and really comparing the two. I'll probably keep one G12T75 around for recording purposes, because I still do like the speaker.

Eric

 

[RockStarNick]

Eric, what exactly does V2 do in the module? Stuck a Chinese 12AX7A in V1. Big help for sure. Got a chinese in V2 too. Sounding pretty close to what I want so far, with the treble knob at 3'oclock.

Played the module for a long time tonight. I'm starting to wonder if I want more treble, OR just less bass. I've read about input coupling capacitor swaps in randall mods to tighten up the low end. I wonder if that would tighten up the lows on my EG3, making the highs seem more prominent?

Fun, fun...

 

[richedie]

Eric, I thought you had the EG3/4 and sold it after comparing to your SL2????

Either, I have both and love both. I could never sell either. The SL2 to me is the ultimate Marshall tone and can't part with it ever. That said, the EG3/4 is a smoother, darker take on it and I think it does rhythm and lead well. I just use a neutral EQ and use a boost in the loop for leads on either channel. I don't see it as just a solo module. With the SL2 and EG3/4, I don't miss my MHG much, LOL.

I did compare them early on when I switched to Egnater. But, at that time the EG3/4 was too dark for me. Come to find out, the speaker and cab combo I was using was probably the biggest of issues. The EG3/4 w/ CL80's...holy shit man...they sound soo damn good. I'll tell ya, I think you would have liked the EG5 w/ CL80's compared to the sugars or the green machines. Bruce has done a good job making all the modules sound amazing through the CL80's. Those and the K100's are my favorite speakers to date. The K100's do the "hard rock / metal" better than the CL80's. The CL80's are just all around friggin awesome. They make my EG5 sound friggin amazing . I'm done w/ G12T75s now after trying CL80's out again and really comparing the two. I'll probably keep one G12T75 around for recording purposes, because I still do like the speaker.

Eric

Good point Eric, but I have been through sooo many speakers in my time I thought I was done when I got the sugars, clones and greens. I may get a pair of the CL80s eventually to try in my smaller Boa cabinet. I like that the K100s are supposed to be good for metal but I like versatility from classic rock to hard rock.

 

[aeroic]

Eric, I thought you had the EG3/4 and sold it after comparing to your SL2????

Either, I have both and love both. I could never sell either. The SL2 to me is the ultimate Marshall tone and can't part with it ever. That said, the EG3/4 is a smoother, darker take on it and I think it does rhythm and lead well. I just use a neutral EQ and use a boost in the loop for leads on either channel. I don't see it as just a solo module. With the SL2 and EG3/4, I don't miss my MHG much, LOL.

I did compare them early on when I switched to Egnater. But, at that time the EG3/4 was too dark for me. Come to find out, the speaker and cab combo I was using was probably the biggest of issues. The EG3/4 w/ CL80's...holy shit man...they sound soo damn good. I'll tell ya, I think you would have liked the EG5 w/ CL80's compared to the sugars or the green machines. Bruce has done a good job making all the modules sound amazing through the CL80's. Those and the K100's are my favorite speakers to date. The K100's do the "hard rock / metal" better than the CL80's. The CL80's are just all around friggin awesome. They make my EG5 sound friggin amazing . I'm done w/ G12T75s now after trying CL80's out again and really comparing the two. I'll probably keep one G12T75 around for recording purposes, because I still do like the speaker.

Eric

Good point Eric, but I have been through sooo many speakers in my time I thought I was done when I got the sugars, clones and greens. I may get a pair of the CL80s eventually to try in my smaller Boa cabinet. I like that the K100s are supposed to be good for metal but I like versatility from classic rock to hard rock.

Well, I through the K100's in my Avatar 2x12 (which is where the CL80's have been for the last week) for fun. I ran more sound through it this morning to break the speakers in more, and they more the K100s break in the smoother they get. They have similar voicings to the CL80s after breakin, but with lots more tight punchy low end. With the VHT 2/90/2 loaded with 6550's, it provides a lot of low end punch that really pushes the CL80's to not handle the low end of heavier music. I'm definitely putting the K100s in the Ear Candy Buzzbomb, whenever I get it. (*sigh* 6 months to make a friggin cab, what a friggin joke!). I really like the CL80s in my Avatar 2x12, for more classic rock, hard rock, and clean stuff. The K100s do a great job with all those too. The cleans w/ the K100s is a bit more "sparkly and chimey" on the high end. W/ the SL and the K100s, you get this creamy warm vintage tone you would expect. For my main rig, I'll use the K100s in the EarCandy Buzzbomb, where I have the VHT 2/90/2 and the M4 loaded w/ the DLX, SL, EG3/4, and EG5. Those speakers sound great across all those modules. The best 2 speakers I have played through are the CL80 and K100. The K100 is definitely very very very tight and punchy. Helps on the EG3/4 to add a little bite too because of the high end of the K100. And it's not ice-picky high end, just really smooth high end that sparkles on cleans.

Eric