einstein ch 1 question (volume and modes)

[Joeytpg]

how do you handle the volume increase when switching from mode1 to mode 2 to mode 3. If I'm playing cleans in mode 1 and then go to mode 2 the volume is too Loud!, same happens if I go to mode 3.

any ideas how to solve this?

 

[Peter Diezel]

As 1000 times said, it´s a two channel amp.
Adjust the mode switch to Your needs and
switch between channel one and two.

I´m thinking about to remove the mode switch on
the next version and replace it with a second
volume and gain knob.

It depends on Your guitar output and the modes
don´t match volume in any situation. It´s only a
preselection for Your style.

 

[Joeytpg]

As 1000 times said, it´s a two channel amp.
Adjust the mode switch to Your needs and
switch between channel one and two.

I´m thinking about to remove the mode switch on
the next version and replace it with a second
volume and gain knob.

It depends on Your guitar output and the modes
don´t match volume in any situation. It´s only a
preselection for Your style.

oh, ok... c'mon peter, don't get mad at me or I'll have to

Nah, I know it must be kind of tiring for you when noobs like me come in and ask 12,456 questions, some of them even having the same answer but like I said, I'm a noob when it comes to "modes" and this type of stuff. I don't know why but I always though the modes in some strange way made the amp a 4 channel amp, but you're totally right, ita TWO channel amp, AND ch. 1 just has 3 modes for you to use as you please depending on your style, but it's still a 2 ch. amp. After asking this (or something related) I finally got it.

with Olaf's modes pedal mod and some rolling off of the guitar's volume knob it could very well be used as some sort of 3 or 4 chn. amp I guess.

 

[LaXu]

Because of the volume and gain differences I haven't bothered modding my Einstein. In clean I find myself turning up the channel volume and turning down the gain while in mode three I turn down the gain and turn it up in mode 2.

To me it's really the second channel that could use some changes so it could be used for more than high gain leads. A more sensible gain range would be much appreciated. I mean I keep the gain on it between 8-11 o'clock because anything more is just absurd. Good gain ranges are rather rare in many amps, the Orange Rockerverbs are probably the best example because on those the gain is actually usable from 0 to 10.

 

[Neuro]

Here's my input on this:

Try using the Master volumes to compensate for the difference in volume when switching to different modes. For example, use Master 1 for clean and Master 2 for heavy.

This might be a hassle to do LIVE (or impossible if you don't have a mode-switching mod), but I use a GCX Audio Switcher/Ground Control Pro setup, which allows me to switch between all modes, masters, and channels on the Einstein as well as bring up a patch on my G-Force...ALL with the push of one button. For more details on this you can send me a PM.

Otherwise, you'll be switching modes with one pedal and switching volumes with another (the factory Einstein pedal). One extra button to push just to switch from clean to heavy is quite enough to get on my nerves! Not to mention any other pedals/effects I would want to switch on/off. This is why I went with the GCX/Ground Control Pro setup. Its amazing. 1 BUTTON and your done. Hundreds of presets available too.

I have 4 presets for each song that we play: Verse, Chorus, Solo, Bridge/Intro. I can bank up to the next song after we're done playing it and BAM...there's my next set of presets for that song. Genius!

Hope this helps and makes sense! Its about 4:30 a.m. here, and I'm about half asleep. Later guys

-Neuro

 

[Neuro]

Because of the volume and gain differences I haven't bothered modding my Einstein. In clean I find myself turning up the channel volume and turning down the gain while in mode three I turn down the gain and turn it up in mode 2.

To me it's really the second channel that could use some changes so it could be used for more than high gain leads. A more sensible gain range would be much appreciated. I mean I keep the gain on it between 8-11 o'clock because anything more is just absurd. Good gain ranges are rather rare in many amps, the Orange Rockerverbs are probably the best example because on those the gain is actually usable from 0 to 10.

If you mod your Einstein, you can get your levels right. Trust me. All this is adjustable by using both Master volumes. I do agree that Channel 2 has an amazing amount of Gain! It does however clean up well for me when I use the volume knob. But I still can see where you're coming from.

Cheers!

-Neuro

 

[Peter Diezel]

As 1000 times said, it´s a two channel amp.
Adjust the mode switch to Your needs and
switch between channel one and two.

I´m thinking about to remove the mode switch on
the next version and replace it with a second
volume and gain knob.

It depends on Your guitar output and the modes
don´t match volume in any situation. It´s only a
preselection for Your style.

oh, ok... c'mon peter, don't get mad at me or I'll have to

Nah, I know it must be kind of tiring for you when noobs like me come in and ask 12,456 questions, some of them even having the same answer but like I said, I'm a noob when it comes to "modes" and this type of stuff. I don't know why but I always though the modes in some strange way made the amp a 4 channel amp, but you're totally right, ita TWO channel amp, AND ch. 1 just has 3 modes for you to use as you please depending on your style, but it's still a 2 ch. amp. After asking this (or something related) I finally got it.

with Olaf's modes pedal mod and some rolling off of the guitar's volume knob it could very well be used as some sort of 3 or 4 chn. amp I guess.

No, I don´t mad at You, it´s just I made a mistake with the mode selection.

Peace,

Peter

 

[Neuro]

Peter,

I know the Einstein is a "stripped" down essentials kind of Diezel, and I love the voicing of this amp. And although I don't need it, maybe you could also provide a footswitch that switches between modes, channels, AND master volumes? I'm sure people would love this option, since adding the mod like I have voids the warranty! I also like your idea about the added volume as well.

Thanks again for the input and support you provide on this forum, it helps more than you know.

 

[LaXu]

No, I don´t mad at You, it´s just I made a mistake with the mode selection.

Peace,

Peter

Not at all, Peter! To me the mode selection was actually one of the things that made me buy the Einstein. I was going to get the Mesa Lone Star at first.

 

[FriedChickenBandit]

As 1000 times said, it´s a two channel amp.
Adjust the mode switch to Your needs and
switch between channel one and two.

I´m thinking about to remove the mode switch on
the next version and replace it with a second
volume and gain knob.

It depends on Your guitar output and the modes
don´t match volume in any situation. It´s only a
preselection for Your style.

oh, ok... c'mon peter, don't get mad at me or I'll have to

Nah, I know it must be kind of tiring for you when noobs like me come in and ask 12,456 questions, some of them even having the same answer but like I said, I'm a noob when it comes to "modes" and this type of stuff. I don't know why but I always though the modes in some strange way made the amp a 4 channel amp, but you're totally right, ita TWO channel amp, AND ch. 1 just has 3 modes for you to use as you please depending on your style, but it's still a 2 ch. amp. After asking this (or something related) I finally got it.

with Olaf's modes pedal mod and some rolling off of the guitar's volume knob it could very well be used as some sort of 3 or 4 chn. amp I guess.

No, I don´t mad at You, it´s just I made a mistake with the mode selection.

Peace,

Peter

No you didn't! It's a great idea and option. I have no issues at all with them that's what the 2 Masters and the footswitch is for.

 

[Neuro]

But why JUST use the 2-button footswitch when you can have a mod or other option made by Peter to make the modes on Channel 1 switchable? Then it becomes LIKE a 4-channel amp...

 

[Joeytpg]

But why JUST use the 2-button footswitch when you can have a mod or other option made by Peter to make the modes on Channel 1 switchable? Then it becomes LIKE a 4-channel amp...

I agree with this man.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

If the Einstein modes were completely footswitchable it would be a four channel amp thus cutting into the sales of the VH4 which is Diezels' Flagship amp. From a business perspective it would be stupid for Peter to make the Einstein directly complete featurewise with a more expensive amp in his line. Remember that Diezel is Peters' business as well as his passion.

 

[Joeytpg]

Not really a 4 channel amp, because to be a 4 channel amp it would need 4 different EQ control for each channel. You know what I mean?

But again if you set the gain at around 1:00 and the channel volume around 12:00 - 1:00 you can set channel 1 Clean and Texas in one Master, and ch1 Mega and Ch2 in Master 2 that way is really useable.

 

[Duolos]

Are we really talking about this??? Really???? Come on guys...lately it seems like nobody is happy about anything around here. Am I going to have to open up a can of whoop ass...

I assure you that Peter has well thought out his designs and tried them and tested them over and over and over again.....and then again. They are very easy to understand if you take the time to do so. The master volume (if used right) will let you go from the first channel and first mode and step up all the way through the channels and modes to the end from one leaving point in tone to the next starting point. I don't understand why this is so hard to figure out

The Einstein is a very simple amp to dial in and it sounds amazing not to mention its ease of use. Sounds like people need to play more and post less for sanity's sake.

That is why we do this right??? To play?

 

[Joeytpg]

Yeah, I agree with you Duolos, but, the thing is that even though Peter design the Einstein to have two channels and 3 modes in ch.1 to choose your style...... he did not expect people to LOVE ALL the modes and want to use them ALL hehehehe

hey but that's a good thing you know? Plus, as a Marketing man that I am, and I guess you are too, it's not about what the company design it's about the users need, if you know what I mean, and I'm not bashing Diezel, nor Peter, we all know how I feel about him, and how we ALL feel about the company......but sometimes you have a design in mind and the consumer wants/needs something else...... or even transform their needs.

I think that's what's happened with the Einstein..... people really really like each mode/channel, and would love to be able to switch between them easily without maybe having to mod the amp (and therefor loose the warranty), and not have volume differences. It's not really asking for a 4 channel amp, because most of us can live with the three modes and only one set of EQ controls if you know what I mean?

 

[Joeytpg]

Yeah, I agree with you Duolos to SOME extent, but, the thing is that even though Peter design the Einstein to have two channels and 3 modes in ch.1 to choose your style...... he did not expect people to LOVE ALL the modes and want to use them ALL hehehehe

hey but that's a good thing you know? Plus, as a Marketing man that I am, and I guess you are too, it's not about what the company design it's about the users need, if you know what I mean, and I'm not bashing Diezel, nor Peter, we all know how I feel about him, and how we ALL feel about the company......but sometimes you have a design in mind and the consumer wants/needs something else...... or even transform their needs.

I think that's what's happened with the Einstein..... people really really like each mode/channel, and would love to be able to switch between them easily without maybe having to mod the amp (and therefor loose the warranty), and not have volume differences. It's not really asking for a 4 channel amp, because most of us can live with the three modes and only one set of EQ controls if you know what I mean?

 

[Duolos]

I think I understand what you are saying but to me, the amp works flawlessly and seamlessly just like it is. It is PERFECT.

 

[Joeytpg]

you know, it does work, it's like you said, flawless...... but some of us REALLY love having them 3 modes at the tip of a footswitch.


but it's a flawless amp

 

[Duolos]

That is what the mod is for Joey...