Einstein Schmidt Comparison?

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I am curious about the Schmidt as the description on the website reminds me of the Einstein. I have always considered the Einstein a super smooth amp. My VH4S I would describe as 'tighter' but not as smooth/warm as the Einstein. Only played the Herbert once and recall it sounding very tight as well. Just curious how the Schmidt would compare to the other amps.

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brian
 
Yeah and for some reason when I read it it reminded me of an Einstein description I read somewhere, but that might be my imagination. Definitely a compelling review. So how would you rate it against the Einstein? Is it different enough for me buy?

thanks,

brian
 
Anyway, schmidt is a classA amp. Einstein has a EL34 power amp. It´s like comparing an ac30 with a jcm800. :doh:
 
Well, reading the review it goes beyond ac30. Maybe a modern and verstaile concept of what a classA amp should be.
 
The Schmidt is nothing like any other Diezel amp. On some levels it has a familiar flavor but it doesn't sound like any other Diezel or any other amp for that matter. The Schmidt is a very special amp in its dynamics, overtones and response. How you play is how the Schmidt will respond. Light touch and it beautiful and smooth. Dig in a little and it tightens up and articulates accordingly. There is a ease in the feel of the amp that is unlike any other amp I have ever owned or played. I have also never found so many tones by simply just adjusting the volume knob and gain knob. The Schmidt is the most captivating amp I have played that I can remember.
 
hey terry..... can the Schmidt get "as heavy" as the Einstein gainwise?


I could very well sell the Einstein to try the Schmidt. But depends on how "heavy" it can get. I don't play no brootlz but I like a tight Metallica type of sound

what do you say?
 
Joeytpg":35w0eskf said:
hey terry..... can the Schmidt get "as heavy" as the Einstein gainwise?


I could very well sell the Einstein to try the Schmidt. But depends on how "heavy" it can get. I don't play no brootlz but I like a tight Metallica type of sound

what do you say?
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Hmmmmm.......I am not sure. That is a tough one. It would be very close. The Schmidt can not do Cannibal Corpse :( and for that I am sad...lol. No seriously, it is not meant to but I was damn impressed with how heavy it can get after hearing those heroin type addicting cleans and Malcolm Young tones. I would have paid twice the price alone for just those tones as they are that dang good....lol.
 
alright..... so we're clear it's not as heavy as the Einstein then. So it won't do "hard rock-metal" without a boost then?

I don't wanna keep asking the same thing, but since there are still no clips of the Schimidt flying around to "hear" how heavy it can get I can only rely on your expertise and great ears for now.

Like I said I'm not into canibal corpe or anything...... If the Schmidt can do some MEtallica's LOAD-RELOAD-GARAGE inc tones WITHOUT a boost, I'm sold then.

now it's a matter of how "tight" it is while is doing hi-gain. :confused:
 
It is a very open and rounded amp on the clean side and has a bloomy gain....HOWEVER, when you increase the gain and whack it the amp responds favorably and tightens up nicely. I wouldn't say it has less gain then the Einstein, it is just voiced very different. I personally feel it could do load and reload type tones. It has a kick ass sound to it indeed. Boosting any Diezel amp IMO only ruins the amp...but that is my thought. I like the gain on the Schmidt very much. It is everything you want an amp to be when you are using in whatever way you are using it. I know this may be hard to understand but I am asking you to trust me on it. You play clean with your fingers and it is warm and sweet. You up the gain and hammer it and it gets mean. You do anything in between and it responds properly and accordingly. This is a fantastic amp, no way around it. It has a clear type gain on some levels but it saturates out nicely and clearly too. I think it is bad ass and if you want to get one and replace the Einstein with it, I can not imagine you being unhappy with it. Let me know when you want one and I will get you one. :thumbsup:
 
Einstein, Herbert and VH4 are creating their sound in the preamp with nuances and the bottom end created from the poweramp. A Class A amp like Schmidt creates its sound with a higher degree in the poweramp, its warmth and sonic vibe is more an interaction of the whole machine, which includes a tube driven reverb.
Additionally Peter has built in some really sophisticated stuff which makes the amp breathe in a very open sounding way. What you play inside will come thru the speakers, so its more controlable thru your playing but also pretty unforgiving.
As I've said in another thread - it is on the side of the spectrum - like fire and ice (which doesn't mean it has no gain or so) - hard to describe.
But then the big advantage is its multi channel design (with loop and reverb). While loads of class A amps sound amazingly well for styles like jazz/blues/fusion and have just one channel, Schmidt goes two steps further - lets take the clean channel f.i.
Normally you'd expect the channel to be clean, with Schmidt (and your (!) seletion of the powertubes) you have the option (with 6V6s) to get typical small wattage fenderesque blues-cleans from the amp - when the poweramp is cranked. And then, for a tad more gain you'd go to the second channel and add some dirt without needing a pedal. Still not enough? Well, there's a booster inside . . . Go back to EL34s and have a clean/clean with a sparkling reverb from channel 1 . . ..

There are a million sounds inside this machine, esp those which were not easily accessable with the other members of the Diezel family yet - thats why it makes perfectly sense to add this kind of amp to the portfolio.
You need SRV? Well . . .
You need AC/DC? Well . . .
You need Delta Blues? Well . . .
You need Knopfler? Well . . .
You need Rory Gallagher? Well . . .
You need Hendrix? Well . . . .

And if you want to rock, just put some EL34s inside, crank it, crank the gain - and rock.
 
awesome! you guys are making me GAS one hehehe



would both of you Olaf/Terry believe is a sin to replace an Einstein with a Schmidt? I cannot own 3 Diezels that 's for sure! but if I where to replace one, It'd be the Einstein, since the Vh4 is such a special amp.

Would I miss something in the Einstein?

What I like about the einstein is how versatile it is....the damn amp can do SRV/Hendrix/BB King, then you g to mode 2 or 3 and you have AC/DC, Black Sabbath, and boom go to channel 2 and you're already doing MEtallica, Megadeth, Sevendust, etc etc..... which I absolutely love.....

I cannot/do not want an amp that will only do one of two things.... I love versatile amps that'll do almost everything.

So, again...will I miss my einstein if I replace it with the Schmidt, versatility wise? :D
 
You wouldn't miss it.
Einstein may not be VH4's twin, but very close brother, so go and make another guy happy by selling it and make Diezel happy by buying a Schmidt :D

Spread the virus ;)
 
^^ of'course you'll miss it. That is your first Diezel amp - remember? :) So don't sell it and buy Schmidt :) Hope this year will be good for my poor self (esp. March/April) and me would get a VH4 and sumthin' Diezel else to add to my Einy, which is "helluv" an amp. I'd swear by it any day and then after.... :rock:
 
duesentrieb":2ks7g1nt said:
You wouldn't miss it.
Einstein may not be VH4's twin, but very close brother, so go and make another guy happy by selling it and make Diezel happy by buying a Schmidt :D

Spread the virus ;)
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wow, if YOU're saying that, it REALLY must mean this amp is unbelievable! :shocked:

I hear ya on the Einstein/Vh4 not being twins but looking alike.


I guess the einstein is on it's way out then! :D


btw, Olaf how much is the Schmidt going for in Euros? (Terry posted a price list but it was in dollars)
 
alrighty then!

btw I'm in the process of recording some Jimi H. and some Thin Lizzy with the Little Joe....it sounds :shocked:
 
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