EQing a D Moll

[Stinkbomb]

I've been playing around with EQ settings on my D Moll recently in an effort to tighten up the bass response. It looks like the D Moll isn't a fan of EQ in the effects loop but adding a pedal in front of the amp got me exactly the sound I was looking for.

I'm curious what other people's experience has been and any recommendations for EQ settings.

 

[steve_k]

I've been playing around with EQ settings on my D Moll recently in an effort to tighten up the bass response. It looks like the D Moll isn't a fan of EQ in the effects loop but adding a pedal in front of the amp got me exactly the sound I was looking for.

I'm curious what other people's experience has been and any recommendations for EQ settings.

I'll be booed and heckled......but I run a BBE Sonic Stomp in the FX loop (shhhhhhh, don't tell anyone).



Depends also on what you are doing with the mid cut and how you are setting up the shared EQ for channel 2 and 3. I started with channel 3 and got it where I wanted, then came back to channel 2. Got things where I don't have to make any adjustments. So, depending on where you are sitting on the shared EQ, you might be able to use a parametric EQ pedal if you can't find what you need with a normal graphic EQ or the built in EQ. Channel 2 would be the easier channel to tighten up the bass for tracking better.

Good luck..........

 

[Peter Diezel]

I've been playing around with EQ settings on my D Moll recently in an effort to tighten up the bass response. It looks like the D Moll isn't a fan of EQ in the effects loop but adding a pedal in front of the amp got me exactly the sound I was looking for.

I'm curious what other people's experience has been and any recommendations for EQ settings.

What kind of cabinet do you use ?

 

[Stinkbomb]

Thanks guys.

I'm using an Engl Pro Slanted 2X12 with V30's. I've found the bass on the D Moll to be a bit too much for my taste. I've got the Deep set to 10 o'clock and have played with the base on channel 2/3 but was having trouble dialing out some muddiness. I have the mid cut engaged and am running the intensity and level around 1 o'clock.

Adding an EQ pedal in front of the amp with a fairly healthy bass cut did the trick but I'm curious how others are dialing in their settings. Also, I didn't have much luck using the FX Loop with the EQ (Pedal and a rack unit). I'm curious how others have dialed in their sound.

 

[steve_k]

Is that Engl cab front loaded? With just about any Diezel, I find a front loaded cab (mine happens to be Diezel) to be good for keeping things articulate and tight. It may be your simplest solution.

 

[Stinkbomb]

The cab is rear loaded I believe. Handles bass very well and is overall a great sounding cab. I'm playing at bedroom levels so maybe that's part of it.

 

[adr1anos]

..like the D Moll isn't a fan of EQ in the effects loop but adding a pedal in front of the amp got me exactly the sound I was looking for..

For me, exactly the opposite worked best.
I am using one of these in the Loop: http://www.empresseffects.com/paraeq.html..
..I am very pleased with the outcome and I have total control over ΕQ areas out of reach of the conventional BMT ranges of the DMoll.
Expensive pedal granted, but very effective.. i managed to get spot on the sounds I wanted with precision and great clarity, while keeping all the juicy goodness of the DMoll's signature sound.

 

[kahawe]

The engl-pro cabs are generally sweet cabs but they are rear-loaded and got quite a fat ass with all that wood and big volume - that is fantastic for fattening-up a lot of amps but could be a little too much for an already very "phat" dmoll... and folks like to attribute a bit of scooping character to them, they seem a little "colder".. maybe it's stealing some healthy mids punch?
No idea where the "mud" might be coming from, I find the dmoll very punchy and articulate on Boger 2x12 (RLs). What else is in the chain or how long is it end-to-end? Tried plugging in directly? And turning it up a little?

A frontloaded will definitely give you more tightness, though.

 

[steve_k]

..like the D Moll isn't a fan of EQ in the effects loop but adding a pedal in front of the amp got me exactly the sound I was looking for..

For me, exactly the opposite worked best.
I am using one of these in the Loop: http://www.empresseffects.com/paraeq.html..
..I am very pleased with the outcome and I have total control over ΕQ areas out of reach of the conventional BMT ranges of the DMoll.
Expensive pedal granted, but very effective.. i managed to get spot on the sounds I wanted with precision and great clarity, while keeping all the juicy goodness of the DMoll's signature sound.

I have tried one of those. That Empress EQ is good about anywhere or any amp. I liked mine all the way until I sheared all of the mini switches off the side of it...

 

[MourningEngine]

The engl-pro cabs are generally sweet cabs but they are rear-loaded and got quite a fat ass with all that wood and big volume - that is fantastic for fattening-up a lot of amps but could be a little too much for an already very "phat" dmoll... and folks like to attribute a bit of scooping character to them, they seem a little "colder".. maybe it's stealing some healthy mids punch?
No idea where the "mud" might be coming from, I find the dmoll very punchy and articulate on Boger 2x12 (RLs). What else is in the chain or how long is it end-to-end? Tried plugging in directly? And turning it up a little?

A frontloaded will definitely give you more tightness, though.

The Engl cabinets are front loaded. But that doesn't tell you much anyway. It's the overall construction of a cabinet that is responsible for its sound not just the way the speakers are mounted. Look at the Diezel FL and RL cabs for example. Those cabinets differ in so many details (wood, internal volume, construction, baffle placement, stiffness, etc. etc.).

In my experience Engl cabinets don't work well with Diezel amps due to their strange mid range, stiff response and inherent muddiness. If you are looking for a tight sounding cabinet that fits the voicing of D-Moll than I recommend a Diezel 4x12 FL or a BR Custom Cabinets Coremageddon 3x12.

 

[PaulyPanacea]

I would venture to guess its the cab. I've played thru them in the past and that aren't as tight n focused as the Diezel cabs.. Or Bogner for that matter. If you have the means try some diff cabs n go from there. Bet the results would be astounding.

 

[fuzzyguitars]

i would recommend turning the bass down to 10 o clock and turning up the depth to add some balls back.

tightens things up and sounds quite fat.

turn the mids and presence up as well.

 

[Stinkbomb]

I played around with the base settings on the head but couldn't get it exactly where i wanted. An mxr 10 band in front with a base cut was the key. I have a beastly tone that makes mama proud.

One of these days I'll try out a diezel cab and see how that works out but until them I'm one happy hombre.