ClintN667":32t4c5kz said:
I was so excited and I bought a used peavey 412ms to run it. Put an add on CL to find a band[...]Granted my speakers werent efficient but I dont think it would have gotten much better.
Doesn't the 412MS have G12K-85's? Or is it Sheffields in there?
If they're Sheffields, the efficiency does actually make a big difference. I once brought my Marshall cab to a jam with an old friend that has an Orange cab with two T-75's I gave him and two Creamback M-65's (both 97dB sensitivity). Killer-sounding cab. My Marshall cab has two Relic 30's and two Creamback H-75's which are about the loudest Celestions I've tried. We tried running both in a full stack, and we could not hear his cab over mine like at all, LOL.
Like I said, I've used my LBX to jam with a friend drummer, and it did cut it, but just about. That's through a loud 4x12, though, and it certainly wasn't sounding the best it could. That being said, though, I do agree. There's other small amps more suited for LOUD scenarios than the LBX.
BigGuitars":32t4c5kz said:
Well, I will tell you. My primary objective is great bedroom/studio tube amp tone for practice and recording songs and YouTube videos. I’m going to start making more high-quality videos on my YouTube channel. I’m going to start buying the video/audio/editing equipment, as well as a killer studio guitar rig for good rock/metal tones. The amp you hear me playing in my current vids is just a little MG10CF.
The reason I asked the question above is because if my bedroom amp will also handle live situations, then that would be a plus, but I still plan to buy a loud amp For live.
Out of the demos I’ve heard, I definitely gravitate towards the EVH lbx. I’m looking for something that gets straight to the point with that fast-response, saturated shred lead tone for the type of playing I do.
I do have a couple more questions though...
First, is there a difference between the circuitry of the EVH EL34 models and the non-EL34 models, or is the only difference the power tubes? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I’m not a gear guy.
I ask this because if putting an EL34 in the lbx would make the sound more British or brown, I would probably do that.
Lastly, if I go the lbx route, which of the two is better, and should I just get the matching 112 or 212 cab with it?
Both versions of the LBX sounds fantastic recorded. Just like pretty much anything 5150-related, really. Don't expect a HUMONGOUS low-end like on the bigger EVH's, but if you're smart with the resonance control, they can fool the mic into sounding bigger than they really are.
Regarding bedroom volumes, the LBX II sounds very fizzy until you turn it up some. The original LBX does not have this problem. It sounds smooth and more than useable turned down. You can sorta counter the fizziness of the II by turning down the presence, but you definitely have to set it quite a bit differently quiet than when you're running it loud, while your loud settings work well on the 1 when it's quiet too.
Regarding loud volumes, I find their sweet spot is between 2 and 3 on the master volume on 15W mode. This is pretty loud for home use, but well below loud band settings. It really only gives you more volume up until like 4-4.5 on the dial, but by that time, the EL84's in the power section start sounding a bit too much like EL84's. Above that, you might squeeze a couple more dB's of volume which can get you somewhat heard over a drummer, but at that point, the amp is sounding both pretty farty and shrill.
The LBX II is the only one of the two which is really two channels, TBH. The LBX 1 has two "channels", but the rhythm channel is quite a bit louder than the lead channel, which makes switching between them pretty much useless. Both blue and red sound great on the LBX 1, but it's really not two completely separate channels... more like switching in a couple gain stages between the input and the tone stack. The LBX II has a great clean channel that you can crank to get some breakup and a great overdrive channel with separate gain and volume controls that can handle from 80's rock and metal to modern chuggy stuff with the right guitar with the right pickups.
Neither can take EL34's. Both run EL84's in the power section.
