Friedman Pink Taco, Mini Dirty Shirley or Runt 20 ?

[Del Rei]

Hey, guys.

I have a Smallbox that I use with my 2x12", and I'm really happy with it. Best tone ever.

But I'm wondering about a smaller gear, for some smalls gigs.... And These mini heads came across my mind. And I would match with 1x12" I have.

So, I have 02 questions.

1) Why the Runt 20 is $200 cheaper than PT/DSM and also have a lot more features...? (2 channel, boost, XLR...) Any special reason for "simple" amps to be more expensive than the "lot-of-features" amp?

2) For a Slash (Appetite) and ACDC tones which one should I get?

Thank you guys!

 

[marshall2553]

1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired.
2) I've never played a Runt but I have a PT and DSM. They both can do AC/DC and GnR. In short I'd describe the DSM as more vintage Marshall (looser, plexi/JTM voicing) and the PT is more modern/modded Marshall (tighter and more aggressive than the DSM).

 

[Del Rei]

1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired.
2) I've never played a Runt but I have a PT and DSM. They both can do AC/DC and GnR. In short I'd describe the DSM as more vintage Marshall (looser, plexi/JTM voicing) and the PT is more modern/modded Marshall (tighter and more aggressive than the DSM).

Hey, man.
Thank you for helping.

About the construction, I didn't realize that. Thanks!

So, as both can get my desired tone, and as I consider my Smallbox a tight voiced amp, maybe should be nice to consider the DSM for a variety of tones.....

The PT is a bit smaller head, right? I'm asking that because my 1x12" is 46cm. And I'm worried about the cab being smaller than the head......

 

[marshall2553]

1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired.
2) I've never played a Runt but I have a PT and DSM. They both can do AC/DC and GnR. In short I'd describe the DSM as more vintage Marshall (looser, plexi/JTM voicing) and the PT is more modern/modded Marshall (tighter and more aggressive than the DSM).

Hey, man.
Thank you for helping.

About the construction, I didn't realize that. Thanks!

So, as both can get my desired tone, and as I consider my Smallbox a tight voiced amp, maybe should be nice to consider the DSM for a variety of tones.....

The PT is a bit smaller head, right? I'm asking that because my 1x12" is 46cm. And I'm worried about the cab being smaller than the head......

It should just fit, it's a hair over 45cm wide. If you have a SB I'd say go for the DSM. I have a Smallbox too and the PT is voiced pretty similarly.

 

[JerEvil]

1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired.
2) I've never played a Runt but I have a PT and DSM. They both can do AC/DC and GnR. In short I'd describe the DSM as more vintage Marshall (looser, plexi/JTM voicing) and the PT is more modern/modded Marshall (tighter and more aggressive than the DSM).

Hey, man.
Thank you for helping.

About the construction, I didn't realize that. Thanks!

So, as both can get my desired tone, and as I consider my Smallbox a tight voiced amp, maybe should be nice to consider the DSM for a variety of tones.....

The PT is a bit smaller head, right? I'm asking that because my 1x12" is 46cm. And I'm worried about the cab being smaller than the head......

It should just fit, it's a hair over 45cm wide. If you have a SB I'd say go for the DSM. I have a Smallbox too and the PT is voiced pretty similarly.

I'd echo this. The DS mini has some seriously killer rock tones in it and will be a nice different flavor for you.

 

[Adambomb]

From my experience still owning a BE100 and was looking for the best Friedman 20 watter that had more open classic tone and an amp I can get a killer blues and rock tones out of, I went with the Dirty Shirley Mini. When Nashville got one of the first DSM amps in, I spend hours AB'ing both PT20 and the then new DSM. DSM almost seems to have more clarity with a bit of low-end girth and punchy mids, just classic rock and blues tones for days. Cleans up better than the PT20 I think.

But I would seriously demo the Runt 20 as well, cause I haven't played one but if it got even close to the DSM tones, I'd probably went with it.

 

[Del Rei]

I'm from Brazil and will come to the USA soon, and hope to find all them on a local store to try side by side. But sometimes it´s not possible, and in this case, I'm trying to choose the best option.

For all the advice I received, MDS is the one.