bronz79
New member
Hi to all,
due to the volume of request and doubts concernig how to interface,to use,to find the "tone"
most similar to our amps i think that a little guide can be appreciated.
First of all excuse me for my bad english,any mod or admin feel free to change and rectify
my errors.
Another thing:i think that is most usefull for us to focus the thread only on G-system and not
include other multifx like boss gt 10,eventide eclipse,axe fx etc;it is more simple.
I'll make a first batch of guidelines where anyone find trouble feel free to ask more.
1) How to connetc G-System
There are many method to connect the G with our amps, i assume that the most frequently
used are: G all in the fx loop or the four cable method.
In both we'll use only the serial send and return to avoid phasing issue due to parallel loop.
G has no Kill Dry.
A- putting the G all in the fx loop is pretty simple:
Guitar..>..Diezel preamp in
G instrument in..>..serial send
G out left..>..serial return
So,this setup is like G force or G major..simply but we have one big problem:
the filter and compression algorithms are between preamp and power amp,
not the better place to make sound a wha wha.To solve this problem appears
now the 4 cable method.
This way we split the G in half: filter,comp,loops preamp and time based effect
in the fx loop.
B- 4 cable method:
Guitar ..>..G instument in
G insert loop send..>..Diezel preamp in (using trs cable)
G insert loop return..>..serial send (using trs cable)
G out left..>..serial return (using trs cable)
Balanced or trs cables are used to avoid hum and ground loops but in Diezel amp brand
we don't need other hardware like isobox.(es ebtech hum eliminator).
In this setup we'll find an hearable amount of hiss (not hum) most of course on hi gain
channels..good..there is no way to geti rid off this hiss..this hiss comes from the first
A/D/ (the first dsp:filter,comp)..the same hiss (90%) we'll have if we put all the G preamp.
The ONLY solution to avoid this hiss is complex and not avaible on the market;it consists
in a true bypass pedal that on off position bypasses the first A/D.
2) How to set G-System global levels
Well,now we start playing but our sound seems not like a Diezel..now we focus about
global level settings the most important thing after cabling.
The aim is to reach the most similar tone that we can hear with our amp without the G.
-Input Gain: to set this parameter we make that: clean channel bridge pickup,then play
strong an open chord the red light (clipping) should light on only when we play with
full energy.Your pickup dc resistance here makes the rules: low dc=higher value, (for example
8-12) high dc lower value (for example 2-6)
-Loop Level: the best value i think is 2.With 0 we hit the preamp too strong with 4
not enough.
-Loop Headroom: the most commons values are between 4 and 6,please note the
loop level and headroom are inversed linked.
-Volume: set this to 0.
-Volume Position: follow the manual for this step.
-Output Level:the only whay to set this parameter is to play our amp without G,
then connect and listen to the volume..and go on whit this method untill the amp
volume alone is exactly teh amp volume + G.
We must take note of another problem: output volume is inversed linked to boost:
example: if i have a boost set to +4 and my output volume is setted to -5.
-Boost: making levels is better to set boost to 0 and then set the boosting db
that we want after all the previous steps.The more we boost the more we must
gain output level for a simply reason:in digital domain boost acts as an attenuator,
when engaged full sound is reached.
Only two things:
in utility menu set:
-insert loop lock to on
-boost lock to on
My personal setting with Jackson usa rr1 bare knucke pickup:
-Input Gain:+6
-loop level:2
-loop headroom:6
-volume:0
-volume position:input
-output volume:-5
-boost max:4
due to the volume of request and doubts concernig how to interface,to use,to find the "tone"
most similar to our amps i think that a little guide can be appreciated.
First of all excuse me for my bad english,any mod or admin feel free to change and rectify
my errors.
Another thing:i think that is most usefull for us to focus the thread only on G-system and not
include other multifx like boss gt 10,eventide eclipse,axe fx etc;it is more simple.
I'll make a first batch of guidelines where anyone find trouble feel free to ask more.
1) How to connetc G-System
There are many method to connect the G with our amps, i assume that the most frequently
used are: G all in the fx loop or the four cable method.
In both we'll use only the serial send and return to avoid phasing issue due to parallel loop.
G has no Kill Dry.
A- putting the G all in the fx loop is pretty simple:
Guitar..>..Diezel preamp in
G instrument in..>..serial send
G out left..>..serial return
So,this setup is like G force or G major..simply but we have one big problem:
the filter and compression algorithms are between preamp and power amp,
not the better place to make sound a wha wha.To solve this problem appears
now the 4 cable method.
This way we split the G in half: filter,comp,loops preamp and time based effect
in the fx loop.
B- 4 cable method:
Guitar ..>..G instument in
G insert loop send..>..Diezel preamp in (using trs cable)
G insert loop return..>..serial send (using trs cable)
G out left..>..serial return (using trs cable)
Balanced or trs cables are used to avoid hum and ground loops but in Diezel amp brand
we don't need other hardware like isobox.(es ebtech hum eliminator).
In this setup we'll find an hearable amount of hiss (not hum) most of course on hi gain
channels..good..there is no way to geti rid off this hiss..this hiss comes from the first
A/D/ (the first dsp:filter,comp)..the same hiss (90%) we'll have if we put all the G preamp.
The ONLY solution to avoid this hiss is complex and not avaible on the market;it consists
in a true bypass pedal that on off position bypasses the first A/D.
2) How to set G-System global levels
Well,now we start playing but our sound seems not like a Diezel..now we focus about
global level settings the most important thing after cabling.
The aim is to reach the most similar tone that we can hear with our amp without the G.
-Input Gain: to set this parameter we make that: clean channel bridge pickup,then play
strong an open chord the red light (clipping) should light on only when we play with
full energy.Your pickup dc resistance here makes the rules: low dc=higher value, (for example
8-12) high dc lower value (for example 2-6)
-Loop Level: the best value i think is 2.With 0 we hit the preamp too strong with 4
not enough.
-Loop Headroom: the most commons values are between 4 and 6,please note the
loop level and headroom are inversed linked.
-Volume: set this to 0.
-Volume Position: follow the manual for this step.
-Output Level:the only whay to set this parameter is to play our amp without G,
then connect and listen to the volume..and go on whit this method untill the amp
volume alone is exactly teh amp volume + G.
We must take note of another problem: output volume is inversed linked to boost:
example: if i have a boost set to +4 and my output volume is setted to -5.
-Boost: making levels is better to set boost to 0 and then set the boosting db
that we want after all the previous steps.The more we boost the more we must
gain output level for a simply reason:in digital domain boost acts as an attenuator,
when engaged full sound is reached.
Only two things:
in utility menu set:
-insert loop lock to on
-boost lock to on
My personal setting with Jackson usa rr1 bare knucke pickup:
-Input Gain:+6
-loop level:2
-loop headroom:6
-volume:0
-volume position:input
-output volume:-5
-boost max:4
