HELP: SDE-3000EVH Weird Footswitch Issue

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Somehow I can't turn on C01 or C02 presets. I have no idea what I did. Notice how the LED lights up fine when I click the footswitches for B03 & B04, but as soon as I switch to C01 & C02 they no longer light up. Any ideas????

 
Go into setting and turn delay 1@ or 2 back on!
Remember this until has two different delay units in one. You just turned them off.
 
tpruitt said:
Go into setting and turn delay 1@ or 2 back on!
Remember this until has two different delay units in one. You just turned them off.
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THANK YOU!!! I have NO idea how I managed to do that. I was saving a preset and don't remember modifying any parameter inside the DL1/DL2 settings.
 
tpruitt said:
Your welcome. I did the same thing. Took me two days to figure out what I screwed up!
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Though I like it, this pedal is ridiculously complicated. The manual is written in a very confusing way. I feel like I'm going mad with the circular references and completely non-helpful descriptions of settings... stuff like -

Setting: Input Mode Description: This changes the Input Mode
 
Either my brain is broken or even minor stuff like the stock presets don't make sense. What is the point of DDL2 being part of the preset if DDL2 is TURNED OFF? Am I supposed to go into the settings and turn it on just to hear how the preset is supposed to sound? Why wasn't it on by default?

And if I do turn DDL2 on, then I hear the 370ms delay but then I no longer ear the 15msec chorus-style delay of DDL1. Is it 2 presents in 1 but you have to toggle between them inside the settings? So... confused... :confused:

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Yes I hear ya lol. It takes time. I still get stumped at times.
If your using both delays and your not hearing one. Say the chorus on one channel then turn the output up more till you can hear it. Or the other one down. Feedback would be for how many times you want to hear the echos. Adjust both to taste.
The main thing is your main settings!
Get your input/output,Analog/blah blah stuff dialed in.

There is a post here with some settings I believe. Search the net for settings and testing those will help you figure it out.
I’m terrible at the modulation part. Needs more time to figure that part out.
 
Mess with your settings first.
Like series/parallel
Analog/dig.
Your volumes in/out
Gain volume?

Get those how you like it first then mess with the settings inside your delay patches.
Don’t pick a Evh one those are locked.
Get an idea what settings do what.
 
SonVolt said:
Either my brain is broken or even minor stuff like the stock presets don't make sense. What is the point of DDL2 being part of the preset if DDL2 is TURNED OFF? Am I supposed to go into the settings and turn it on just to hear how the preset is supposed to sound? Why wasn't it on by default?

And if I do turn DDL2 on, then I hear the 370ms delay but then I no longer ear the 15msec chorus-style delay of DDL1. Is it 2 presents in 1 but you have to toggle between them inside the settings? So... confused... :confused:

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The two delays are in series and DDL2 has a low output, so when DDL2 is engaged the volume of DDL1 is dropped reducing the chorusing effect.
 
Congrats! One of the best Modulated Delay pedals on the market (I have over 50 delay pedals so that's saying something!)

Do you use it just for EVH stuff? I use one for church on my smallest board
 
The dual delays sound great. I have NOT been able to get any modulated delays on this thing sounding good. Maybe that's the character of the old units that I'm not jiving with? I dunno, but the modulation on my 2290P sounds a lot better and more natural IMO. If it had Dual Delay taps I'd probably switch to it entirely, but it doesn't.

I'm coming from the Fractal FX8 (effects only unit) in a W/D/W setup where I used the software editor to modify effects. It could do everything the SDE-3000EVH could do, more intuitively, but you had to use a PC and the software editor. Decided to go back to a standard pedalboard. I think part of my frustration is just getting used to pedals again, especially the deep-dive ones like the SDE-3000.
 
Does anyone know what OUTPUT value is Unity Gain with the Dry signal? It goes from 0-99. I would have guessed 50 but the wet sounds too loud.
 
SonVolt said:
The dual delays sound great. I have NOT been able to get any modulated delays on this thing sounding good. Maybe that's the character of the old units that I'm not jiving with? I dunno, but the modulation on my 2290P sounds a lot better and more natural IMO. If it had Dual Delay taps I'd probably switch to it entirely, but it doesn't.
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I don't know..

You should be able to get really good modulated delay tones (reverbs, phase, flange, chorus and ring mod) and it shouldn't be hard. The pedal was made with EVH in mind and yet is better for U2 modulated delays.


Here's a video that gives you some settings for steller sounding modulated delays with just the SDE-3000.


If you try these settings and are still underwhelmed, there may be other issues in your set-up that are conflicting with your sound.
 
GreatRedDragon said:
The two delays are in series and DDL2 has a low output, so when DDL2 is engaged the volume of DDL1 is dropped reducing the chorusing effect.
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You can change them to parallel.
That’s why I mentioned spending a little time messing around in settings.
 
Does Para2 have "more processing power" than Para1? The reason I ask, I can set up a pretty good chorus effect with Para2 (true independent delay lines). But if I set up the exact same settings in Para1 using DDL1 only (DDL2 off) I get the same chorus but it's less full and rich sounding. It's like it goes slightly lo-fi. If I crank up the output to try and even out any volume differences it doesn't sound quite as nice as Para2. Theoretically these should sound the same.

I'm assuming with Para1 being more complex (4 delay taps) that there's less processing power and therefor the quality of the effect is lower?
 
SonVolt said:
Does Para2 have "more processing power" than Para1? The reason I ask, I can set up a pretty good chorus effect with Para2 (true independent delay lines). But if I set up the exact same settings in Para1 using DDL1 only (DDL2 off) I get the same chorus but it's less full and rich sounding. It's like it goes slightly lo-fi. If I crank up the output to try and even out any volume differences it doesn't sound quite as nice as Para2. Theoretically these should sound the same.

I'm assuming with Para1 being more complex (4 delay taps) that there's less processing power and therefor the quality of the effect is lower?
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According to the template, it's the same exact circuitry but the way the programming works, it may sit some software or buffer between them that affects the end result. I'm not really sure but seems possible
 
Ok. Yeah I'm assuming it's running the CPU up when in Para1 mode and it's dropping the quality down slightly, similar to how Fractal does when it switches an effect down to "economy" if you peg the CPU too hard.

Can someone explain the various modulation phase settings and when I'd use which? I flip the phase on my 2290P to add spatial width, but I'm not sure what phase does to modulation.

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SonVolt said:
Ok. Yeah I'm assuming it's running the CPU up when in Para1 mode and it's dropping the quality down slightly, similar to how Fractal does when it switches an effect down to "economy" if you peg the CPU too hard.

Can someone explain the various modulation phase settings and when I'd use which? I flip the phase on my 2290P to add spatial width, but I'm not sure what phase does to modulation.

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Normal = Both go up and down at the same time
Inv = they run in opposite directions

Inverted phase creates a stereo image, and it's a popular way to make a stereo chorus pedal (the MXR Stereo Chorus for one).
 
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