Herbert Cab question

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I am in a band where the other guitarist has an ISP amp. The cabinet has a sub built into it so he has a lot of bottom end. I have been considering the Diezel cab (the front loaded cabinet wired in an x-pattern with the two V30s and the two Diezel Customs). To make a long story short, I tried this cabinet Saturday night at a show and felt that the band's overall sound was too mushy because there was too much bottom end. Do you think I should consider another cab due to what the other guitarist is playing or do you think that this cabinet could be dialed in to provide more clarity and less bottom? Tough question I know. I am just looking for opinions.

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There should be no reason you cannot get a tight (non-mushy) sound out of a Herbert through a front loaded cab in a live situation. If your sound is mushy then you either have some very extreme eq settings or something isn't right with your gear.

If I had to guess without hearing or knowing anything about your band, I'd bet the issue lies with how your buddy is running his ISP subwoofer. I've heard too many guitarist complain about how hard it is to effectively integrate a sub with a guitar rig in a band situation. So I'd start there and figure out how to eq both rigs to fit together in the mix of a live band.
 
I'd start by disconnecting any subs running through guitar cabs, listen to how it sounds and go from there. I don't think you need a sub on 6 string guitar 99.9% of the time. The bass guitar and kick drum should be able to take care of the low end.
 
I agree with supersonic. A guitar is not responsible for covering the low-frequency territory AT ALL. I'm a sound engineer. From my point of view, drums, bass and guitar blend together best when they stay in their dedicated frequency spectrums, respectively. If you need extra butt kickin' from your guitar, you will most likely push away your bass player. The three loudest signals on mixing desks at a live concert (when I'm mixing) are bass drum, bass and vocals. Guitars will always cut through because their frequencies need less power to be perceived as loud as lower registered instruments. They're closer to the frequencies of human speech, to which our ears are the most sensitive.
But very often, metal bands ask me too give them "that low end punch" on their guitars. Mostly, I just raise the region around 150 - 250 Hz, to not interfere with drums or bass. And that always works well.

Hence, it's not making any sense to use a subwoofer on guitar in a band setting. A 4x12" will give you enough low end AND is way tighter than a 15" fitted sub.

Just my opinion.
 
Yes, all true. The best thing you can do for bottom end slam is to play tight. Sub clutter and wooly overtones are not your friend.
 
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