Herbert Channel 3EQ Question

[DvE]

Hey guys,

would be cool to share your advise and experience with me another time.

I want to use channel 3 as Metal Lead Channel on the one hand
and as solo channel on the other hand.

Now I have to find some settings of the eq that fit both best, because it is for band context,
so I dont go and switch everything while playing the song.

The point is to keep the feeling aggressive and byting for the most stuff and then switch it an have just a little bit more liquid feeling for to play solos.

How do you set your eqs for that?

 

[scottph]

Two smart-ass answers:

1. Where's the difference between a "lead channel" and a "solo channel"?
2. Is your channel 2 broken?


Serious answer: I'm assuming you mean rythm channel when you say "Metal lead channel" -> 2. of my smart-ass answers applies.

 

[DvE]

Hehe - ok, then I have to explain more detailed ^^

Everything that should sound tight and rhythm I use channel 2.
But with Lead I mean playing riffs and melodies with a good mix of chunk and melody on the low strings,
in solos the higher strings are involved the most of the time.

Example: Look at http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid= ... marc+seals

At the end he plays Master of Puppets on channel 3 and then some solo-stuff.
Totally different sounds, but both on channel 3. I am searching for something in between ^^

 

[Hey_bert_whtcha_doin_bert]

Flip to the neck pickup for leads or get a boost to use for single note stuff for fluidity.

OR... use a little less high end on that channel and more mids, ton of mids. Should be a good "compromise".

 

[geetar_geek79]

try to get a good lead sound with the mid cut-off. then, once you have it going, try to get another sound for your melodic-riffs-but-not-quite-lead with the mid cut on. i actually play rhythm 90% of the time on ch3 with mid cut. i just turn off the mid cut for solos and use a louder master level and add some delay and slight reverb. ch2 i use for gritty clean to crunch, ch1 for clean with chorus (80's type sound).

 

[mincy]

try to get a good lead sound with the mid cut-off. then, once you have it going, try to get another sound for your melodic-riffs-but-not-quite-lead with the mid cut on. i actually play rhythm 90% of the time on ch3 with mid cut. i just turn off the mid cut for solos and use a louder master level and add some delay and slight reverb. ch2 i use for gritty clean to crunch, ch1 for clean with chorus (80's type sound).

This seems like the way to go. With a good midi foot controller, using the mid-cut and V1/V2, you should be able to change the tone of Ch3 on the fly without ever touching the EQ. Even a slight shift on the mid cut (say 9:30 on the intensity) can make a huge difference. Plus, the level on the mid cut can act as another boost, even if you dial the intensity all the way off (I think that one is even in the manual).

 

[Hey_bert_whtcha_doin_bert]

try to get a good lead sound with the mid cut-off. then, once you have it going, try to get another sound for your melodic-riffs-but-not-quite-lead with the mid cut on. i actually play rhythm 90% of the time on ch3 with mid cut. i just turn off the mid cut for solos and use a louder master level and add some delay and slight reverb. ch2 i use for gritty clean to crunch, ch1 for clean with chorus (80's type sound).

I have to agree too acutally, because the mid cut off is more fluid and mid cut on is "cleaner" sounding. Good idea as well.

 

[jcj]

try to get a good lead sound with the mid cut-off. then, once you have it going, try to get another sound for your melodic-riffs-but-not-quite-lead with the mid cut on. i actually play rhythm 90% of the time on ch3 with mid cut. i just turn off the mid cut for solos and use a louder master level and add some delay and slight reverb. ch2 i use for gritty clean to crunch, ch1 for clean with chorus (80's type sound).

Yep.

 

[joshsage]

People use channel 3????

2+ FTW

 

[DvE]

try to get a good lead sound with the mid cut-off. then, once you have it going, try to get another sound for your melodic-riffs-but-not-quite-lead with the mid cut on. i actually play rhythm 90% of the time on ch3 with mid cut. i just turn off the mid cut for solos and use a louder master level and add some delay and slight reverb. ch2 i use for gritty clean to crunch, ch1 for clean with chorus (80's type sound).

This was the way I thougt to do it
Can you tell me how you set your parameters?
Does not have to be exact, but for example gain on settings around 40% I would use for rhythm and gain around 60% would be for solos etc. Can make a uge difference, so do the rest. But in generall I am more towards the Metallica-kinda-tone, also for the solos
Mid Cut is around 40% most of the time I play.

Thank you

 

[Me]

+1 for mid-cut for rhythm, no mid-cut for lead!

 

[geetar_geek79]

try to get a good lead sound with the mid cut-off. then, once you have it going, try to get another sound for your melodic-riffs-but-not-quite-lead with the mid cut on. i actually play rhythm 90% of the time on ch3 with mid cut. i just turn off the mid cut for solos and use a louder master level and add some delay and slight reverb. ch2 i use for gritty clean to crunch, ch1 for clean with chorus (80's type sound).

This was the way I thougt to do it
Can you tell me how you set your parameters?
Does not have to be exact, but for example gain on settings around 40% I would use for rhythm and gain around 60% would be for solos etc. Can make a uge difference, so do the rest. But in generall I am more towards the Metallica-kinda-tone, also for the solos
Mid Cut is around 40% most of the time I play.

Thank you

i don't really have permanent settings. i somehow always change them depending on how the wind blows... lol. the settings i have right now on ch 3 is gain and volume at noon, treble and mid around 1:30, bass at noon, mid cut intensity and level around 1:30. presence around 1:30 and deep at noon. it may or may not work with you. these settings also change when i'm using a different cab or turn the amp beyond bedroom level or record or play with my band. right now, it's hooked up to a pair of lopo oversized 1x12 used at bedroom levels. at practice, i had a totally different settings hooked up to my friend's soldano 4x12. in short, you've gotta tweak.

here's an old video of mine just to give you some idea how you can have multiple sounds on a single channel. just note the channels used and whether the mid cut was on or not. and be aware, it's long and there's nothing but noodling! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcAA1uozvI