Herbert effects loops signal path question

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I am contemplating buying a herbert but have a question regarding the effects loop. I have read the manual that indicates 3 separate effects loops.
I would like to run an isp prorack g in the serial loop and an effects unit in the paralell loop and switch them both in/out of the signal chain.
What I need to know is:
1) can 2 loops be run at the same time?
2) Can I make 1 loop serial and the other paralell?
3) Can I run the serialloop before the paralel lloop?
4) Will I be able to footswitch both on/off via midi?
Thanks
Rudy
 
Alright I bought the Herbert anyway but would love to know the answer.
I s/w Salwender today and they didn't know either.
Also looking for Diezel 4x12 cab, and suggestions on good Diezel dealer?
 
roodboy":1bi601hp said:
I am contemplating buying a herbert but have a question regarding the effects loop. I have read the manual that indicates 3 separate effects loops.
I would like to run an isp prorack g in the serial loop and an effects unit in the paralell loop and switch them both in/out of the signal chain.
What I need to know is:
1) can 2 loops be run at the same time?
2) Can I make 1 loop serial and the other paralell?
3) Can I run the serialloop before the paralel lloop?
4) Will I be able to footswitch both on/off via midi?
Thanks
Rudy
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I will answer to the best of my ability and explain how I run my Herbert.
Questions: 1) yes 2) yes, and still have the switchable loop to boot. The Herbert gives you three effect loops. 3) I don't know how to answer this question and I am wondering why or how this would be pertinent. 4) Only one send is switchable. I use this switchable send to go into my Rocktron Intellipitch effects processor input and from the Rocktron's output I connect into the Herbert's parallel return. This allows me to vary the amount of effects I wish to combined with the unaltered Diezel Herbert priceless, from the gods, tone. So you have a choice, you can make the Parallel or serial switchable by connecting to the parallel or serial return. Now, this is just an assumption, but I would assume that you could run a splitter from the switchable send and then with the two mono 1/4 connecters plug into the serial and parallel returns. Remember you only have one switchable send so its either on for both parallel and serial or off for the two loops.
I hope this helps. Welcome to the Diezel club and enjoy!
 
Thanks for the reply. The reason # 3 is important is beacuse I want to put an isp prorack G in serial before a delay unit. The isp needs to be before the deay so it doesn't cut off the decays by having the gate engage. The delay I want in serial beacuse I hate the whole signal going through a/d/a conversion.
 
That is a very good reason to inquire as to loop position in the circuit. I am sure that Peter or Duesentrieb will be giving you the answer here very soon. I am also very interested in any loop information about the Herbert.
 
I've got to say I'm really disappointed not to get a response from somebody at Diezel on this.
I've seen repsonses to other threads since this was posted.
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1) can 2 loops be run at the same time? - yes.
2) Can I make 1 loop serial and the other paralell? - Herbert has 2 serial and one parallel loop
3) Can I run the serialloop before the paralel lloop? - I have no idea what comes first to be honest.
4) Will I be able to footswitch both on/off via midi? - the switchable serial loop is - well - switchable, midi switchable. A switchable parallel loop doesn't make sense to me since the amount of fx signal is given thru the pot's settings. Just use a good unit and bypass the fx there.
 
roodboy":3n6f6sl7 said:
Thanks for the reply. The reason # 3 is important is beacuse I want to put an isp prorack G in serial before a delay unit. The isp needs to be before the deay so it doesn't cut off the decays by having the gate engage. The delay I want in serial beacuse I hate the whole signal going through a/d/a conversion.
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Well, if the delay is in the serial loop, just hook the isp thing in front of it.
send - isp - delay - return.

If you are using the series loop however, you'll of course have ADA conversion permanently.
 
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.
I would like to know the answer on the signal path of the serial loop/parallell loop if possible.
I don't want to put the delay in serial because I don't want run signal through the delay units a/d/a converters.
 
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