How loud is the Rebel 30, and does it have a lot of Gain???

[Roddy]

Just wondering how loud the Rebel 30 is, and if the OD channel has a lot of gain??? Does the Rebel 30 have the gain of the Renegade??.... I play in a 3 piece Blues/Rock band, and my Tourmaster is just to hard on my bad back....

 

[3 Mile Stone]

It's loud enough and I think it would have enough gain. I played a show a while back with it. It can get it done. Renegade would do the trick too, if you want to go lighter with more watts.

 

[Roddy]

Thanks 3 mile....does theoverdrive channel in the 30 sound like the OD channel in the Renegade??

 

[shade]

I haven't played a 30 but it's supposed to be a little less agressive I believe...

 

[musicmanmu]

Check out these demos of the Rebel 30/Renegade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6EdwOuD0Aw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEcm3S36 ... re=related

I think these get the differences across.

That being said, if you're a blues player, I think you'll like the Rebel 30 better. It does have a good amount of gain on tap. Throw a boost in front of it and it screams.

I'm like you...I have a bad back (herniated a disc in my neck in 2008). It affected my life in so many ways...not for the better, unfortunately. I had to get rid of my half stack and heavy gear. I neede something light that could still rock out, and the Rebel 30 head and two of the 1x12 cabs is the perfect solution for me. Modular, light, and fantastic sound that is pretty darn loud. Plenty loud enough for any small to medium club gig. Hope that helps ya!

 

[Roddy]

thanks musicman, that's a big help...yes, that's enough gain for me.....

 

[musicmanmu]

No problem man!
By the way...I love Kittery! I grew up near Beantown, and my bro lives in Portland. We visit a lot in the summer and always stop at the Weathervane in Kittery. It may not be great seafood comparatively, but when you live in West Virginia, it's like 20 times better than anything around here!

 

[blueskies]

I'd also like to add that the clean channel on this amp sounds AMAZING with a Tubescreamer. My problem is I really need two set differently (one for slightly gritty sounds and one for when I really want it to growl). I'd like to check out the Les Lius and see how that works with the Rebel 30. Has anyone tried it yet?

Here's a demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNzb0Fa_eL4

Does anyone have favorite channel two settings that bring out that gritty sound without too much distortion? I tend to play single coil most of the time.

 

[Roddy]

No problem man!
By the way...I love Kittery! I grew up near Beantown, and my bro lives in Portland. We visit a lot in the summer and always stop at the Weathervane in Kittery. It may not be great seafood comparatively, but when you live in West Virginia, it's like 20 times better than anything around here!

Next visit, go across the street to Bob's Clam Hut...They have THE BEST clams in new england...I kid you not....I live a mile from there...take care....rod

 

[3 Mile Stone]

Thanks 3 mile....does the overdrive channel in the 30 sound like the OD channel in the Renegade??

I only played the Renegade once at the amp show in Austin was the first time. It sounded similar in that ... I think all Egnater gain channels have a similarity to a certain extent. The 30 is plenty of volume for live use, and the clean channel I think is way better than the Renegade. It's a great amp the Rebel 30. I love it.

 

[Audioholic]

I have been hearing alot of issues with the Rebel 30 lately. Maybe its just coincidence, but seems as if there have been a good deal that have blown fuses, or some other issues. Is this really the case and there is some initial dependability issues, or is it that I just happen to hear it cause I am hanging out in egnater circles (TGP users too)

 

[Buckeyedog]

And I think you'll find that the majority of those issues are blown tubes. Bad power tubes can take out the fuses. If you keep following those threads on the GP, they have been tube issues.

My theory is that at these price points now, many folks are getting into tube amps for the first time and really don't know/understand them. So understanably so, they are upset when something goes "wrong" and they don't know what is going on or how to fix it. Most of us have been around the block with the tubes and know how to trouble shoot. Consequently, you are going to hear more of the "My amp broke" posts because they don't know how to trouble shoot/swap tubes. Just my theory anyway.

 

[jmgman69]

And I think you'll find that the majority of those issues are blown tubes. Bad power tubes can take out the fuses. If you keep following those threads on the GP, they have been tube issues.

My theory is that at these price points now, many folks are getting into tube amps for the first time and really don't know/understand them. So understanably so, they are upset when something goes "wrong" and they don't know what is going on or how to fix it. Most of us have been around the block with the tubes and know how to trouble shoot. Consequently, you are going to hear more of the "My amp broke" posts because they don't know how to trouble shoot/swap tubes. Just my theory anyway.

+1000000

 

[musicmanmu]

I'd also like to add that the clean channel on this amp sounds AMAZING with a Tubescreamer.

Also, the clean channel sounds awesome with my Danelectro TOD (V1) pedal - perfect for those bluesy or country songs.

Does anyone have favorite channel two settings that bring out that gritty sound without too much distortion? I tend to play single coil most of the time.

Hmm, I seem to think that in ch. 2, as long as you keep the distortion around 10 or 11 o'clock, it gets that gritty tone you are talking about?

 

[musicmanmu]

And I think you'll find that the majority of those issues are blown tubes. Bad power tubes can take out the fuses. If you keep following those threads on the GP, they have been tube issues.

My theory is that at these price points now, many folks are getting into tube amps for the first time and really don't know/understand them. So understanably so, they are upset when something goes "wrong" and they don't know what is going on or how to fix it. Most of us have been around the block with the tubes and know how to trouble shoot. Consequently, you are going to hear more of the "My amp broke" posts because they don't know how to trouble shoot/swap tubes. Just my theory anyway.

Agreed - when I first got my head, I blew a fuse pretty quickly and was initially miffed and pissed off about it. But as you alluded, I am a new tube amp owner, and a new fuse and new set of tubes, and my head's been working flawlessly for several gigs now.

 

[Audioholic]

And I think you'll find that the majority of those issues are blown tubes. Bad power tubes can take out the fuses. If you keep following those threads on the GP, they have been tube issues.

My theory is that at these price points now, many folks are getting into tube amps for the first time and really don't know/understand them. So understanably so, they are upset when something goes "wrong" and they don't know what is going on or how to fix it. Most of us have been around the block with the tubes and know how to trouble shoot. Consequently, you are going to hear more of the "My amp broke" posts because they don't know how to trouble shoot/swap tubes. Just my theory anyway.

Yeah most likely, but I guess I have heard more about the rebel 30 then any issues with the renegade, and even tourmaster. So just makes me wonder if something is helping trigger tube failure, have heard reports of peoples amps being down more then once. Not writing off the 30 though.

 

[3 Mile Stone]

And I think you'll find that the majority of those issues are blown tubes. Bad power tubes can take out the fuses. If you keep following those threads on the GP, they have been tube issues.

My theory is that at these price points now, many folks are getting into tube amps for the first time and really don't know/understand them. So understanably so, they are upset when something goes "wrong" and they don't know what is going on or how to fix it. Most of us have been around the block with the tubes and know how to trouble shoot. Consequently, you are going to hear more of the "My amp broke" posts because they don't know how to trouble shoot/swap tubes. Just my theory anyway.

Yeah most likely, but I guess I have heard more about the rebel 30 then any issues with the renegade, and even tourmaster. So just makes me wonder if something is helping trigger tube failure, have heard reports of peoples amps being down more then once. Not writing off the 30 though.

That would seem to be relatuve to thier popularity. When many people buy something, there will be a few issues. Especial with the declining quality of mass produced tubes. If everyone who bought one and had no trouble with it posted a thread on TGP, then what you'd have is a few hundred positive threads and the same two or three that have issues. People tend to complain when they have an issue. This is what quite frankly sucks about gear forums. The negativity is often unwarranted, unreasonable and uneducated. And it can have serious implications to the product maker, in reputation and sales. It's not really fair.

Then there is the good part of forums, which is mostly what we have on here. Pretty cool people with pretty cool ideas talking some stuff around. It's fun.