I can't choose!

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I played a VH4, Herbert and Schmidt side-by-side today and think I will buy one of them, but I don't know which one. I really can't decide. They all have a similar character, but each do something the others can't and I don't know what my priority is at the moment.

VH4: Channel 3 is insane. I'd buy the amp just for it. Cleans: not so good, comparatively. Channel 2 and 4: useable but don't stand out as much as channel 3.

Herbert: Channel 2 and mid-cut feature are awesome, the amp is a bit more versatile (to me) than the VH4 as it can get more high-gain sounds and it's also a bit less compressed.

Schmidt: has a sweeeeet clean and low-gain channel, especially with the reverb. It can get a good high-gain sound with channel 3 gain at 3:00 or maxed, but it's not as tight as the VH4 or Herbert (30 watts, Class A, I guess). It has a great volume sweep/taper! Very nice!

I play a little of everything, but a lot of progressive rock and metal. I need the Schmidt's clean channel, Herbert's mid-cut/channel 2+ and VH4's 3rd channel!

I'm just venting really, because I know I'm taking one of them home (as soon as someone buys my Bad Cat, *hint-hint*) and I can't choose which one. But, I think it's probably down to the VH4 or Herbert.
 
Dude, Herbert channel 3 !!!!! Gain a little above noon, and crank the mids.
It blows away chan 2+ IMO. (or I can't dial that one correctly?? :lol: :LOL: )

I don't use the mid-cut anymore. might be because I got some KT-88.

The clean is great too, with or w/out mid-cut engaged.

Edit: All herbie would need is a tube reverb, like in fender amps. That would be brilliant.
 
I would have to agree, get the Herbie.

I wanted a VH4, but even with it's 4 channels, I find the 3 on the Herbert are more versatile, and the cleans sound much nicer in my opinion.
 
You didn't try the best one the Einstein :) Most organic and natural sounding of the high gainers imo :rock:

No bells and whistles just simple kick ass diezel tone in a rockin package. :rock:
 
THE ALL MIGHTY HERBERT!!!


The cleans are immaculate, which is rare for a high gain amp IMO, and Ch3 is just brilliant!




also a cat on top would make it sound better so be sure to invest in one of those ;)
 
+1 on the Einstein..

CH2 more or less equals VH4's CH3 / 4 (IMO); in fact: I like it better!
CH1 has a 3 modes, going from clean to mega and all in between.
 
I'd say, go for the Schmidt as you easily can dial in a heavy metal sound. The eq in channel2/3 is massively working to get tons of different sounds and is sensitive enough to get all the nuances you want from a boutique amp. :yes:
The Schmidt has a beautiful reverb on board and one of the best balanced fx-loops I ever found on an amp.

I chose the Schmidt after comparing a lot of different amps, the Bad Cat beeing one of them :rock:


One thing I forgot: Next time you check the Schmidt, turn channel 1 all the way up und let the littlun show everyone what a 30W-monstercrunchsound is...

..possibly it's your the last time in this shop :confused: but it's worth it :rock:
 
All three are used (so the price is good) and they didn't have an Einstein, so I don't think it's going to be included in my decision lineup. I did thoroughly check out each amp and played with the volume settings on the Schmidt a lot (yep, got it cranked way up on each channel), so I know what I'm dealing with. I still can't decide! Schmidt is close to my Bad Cat, but better. But, I don't think I want another 30 watt Class A amp at the moment.
 
I say Herbert. I haven't played any of the other diezel models, but what I can say is I am very happy with my Herbert.

The Clean is as good as it gets, and channel 3 with the mid cut is massive and brutal. Click to channel two and you've got a plexi type sound on - and hi gain marshally sound on the + setting. THe herbert pretty much can cover everything.

My only complaint is I wish the Herbert (could double for the VH4 too) had spring reverb.
 
Get both!! :thumbsup: :lol: :LOL:

If you can only choose one the Herbert. I owned the Vh4 for 9 yrs great amp I loved it and like you said the 3rd channel is to die for.
But the Herbert is an all around better sounding amp with a ton more versiatility. My opinion it picks up where the Vh4 leaves off. :rock:
 
prsdiezel":1csgtlyd said:
Get both!! :thumbsup: :lol: :LOL:

If you can only choose one the Herbert. I owned the Vh4 for 9 yrs great amp I loved it and like you said the 3rd channel is to die for.
But the Herbert is an all around better sounding amp with a ton more versiatility. My opinion it picks up where the Vh4 leaves off. :rock:
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I could potentially get both for $6,000. lol.... not gonna happen.

I'm probably going to go for the Herbert.... but man, the VH4 has been on my want list for like 10 years. When I stop back into the store to pick out which one I want, I'll play them both side-by-side again and see if I can make up mind.
 
I might be interested in trading my '04 Herbert + Case for your Bad Cat Hot Cat + 2x12 Cab. PM me if interested & we can work out the details. :thumbsup:

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I've decided to wait until Diezel makes an amp with the Schmidt's clean channel, Einsteins mid-gain tones, Herbert's channel 2 and VH4's channel 3. When that happens I'll buy. :)

I doubt that will happen any time soon.... so, I have someone stopping by tomorrow to look at/buy my Bad Cat, then I'm off to the store on Friday to get either the Herbert or VH4.
 
FourT6and2":2qsv2ifi said:
I've decided to wait until Diezel makes an amp with the Schmidt's clean channel, Einsteins mid-gain tones, Herbert's channel 2 and VH4's channel 3. When that happens I'll buy. :)

I doubt that will happen any time soon.... so, I have someone stopping by tomorrow to look at/buy my Bad Cat, then I'm off to the store on Friday to get either the Herbert or VH4.
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Either will be a good decision. Good luck in making a difficult choice and if you are anything like the rest of us, you will be completely happy with he amp you get but still want the one you didn't choose. :D
 
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