Is a 50-watt Einstein loud enough?

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I play in a Metallica tribute, and I've found a local guy with a 50-watt Einstein that's never been gigged for $1800. Would it keep up volume-wise with a Triple-Rec? The Triple-Rec's tone isn't so good, but it's f*ing loud. I'm coming from a Boogie Triaxis rack system with a VHT 2:90:2 power amp.

Will it get Metallica tone? I played through it briefly at NAMM, but I was so blinded by the Herbert that I didn't really put it through it's paces. And you can lead boost from either channel, right?

I really want a Herbert, but $1800 vs. $4100... I don't know.
 
I really don't think he can make sense of your smilies Peter...I know I couldn't.

My take on it: 50 watts is only slightly "quieter" than 100 0r 120 watts...whatever the Triple Rec can do - I think it's the later. The additional watts give you more headroom, but there's not really an audiable difference.
 
Well, having owned a triple, I'll have to say no, the headroom isn't there on a 50 watter. While the Einstein is a decently loud 50 watts, it won't cut it un-miced, if your other guitar player is a volume freak. You have alot more usable dial to play with on a 150 watt head ya know. REALLY though depends on how loud your other guitar player likes to crank his stuff.

-Nick
 
Thanks, guys. I know the difference between 50 and 100-watt Marshalls, but every amp is different, and I don't have experience with Diezels in a live situation. I appreciate your input, and I'm going to wait for a Herbert. Peter, you crack me up!
 
What the previous posters have said is true.
From my personal experience, I saw The Allman Brothers Band when they were the original lineup at my college twice within six weeks.
Duane Allman used a 50 watt Marshall Super Bass head and two Marshall 4x12s with JBL speakers in them.

Betts used a 100 watt Super Lead with two 4x12 Marshalls and both sounded very similar. The difference in tone was due to the extra wattage Betts had, so his tone was cleaner, as was his desire to have it that way.

Jeff Beck uses 50 watt Marshalls because he likes the tone they produce.

I have used my Einstein 50 watt combo with two 4x12's as an experiment once and it was way noticably louder then with one 4x12, or one 2x12, and of course, just the one speaker in the combo, by itself.

It will get down to the tone you want and the volume you are forced to play at.
If you are mic'd up and standing on the opposite side of the stage as your other guitar player, I see no reason why 50 watts through a pair of 4x12's shouldn't be obnoxiously loud enough. If it isn't, I wouldn't worry about it as you will soon be deaf anyway from the high DB levels you will be playing at.
And as to that last statement...no, I'm not kidding.
 
The 100 watter appears a bit tighter. No problem to
bring it down with the master. I should hear the band
in person.
 
I have owned a triaxis and own a tremoverb. Last week I jammed with Glory Hog and a few band mates. He has a 100 watt Einstein and his other guitar player has a dual rec. We traded off amps and it sounded pretty good. I do not see the volume being a problem. As for tone Im not sure what that means any more. I always liked the sound of Master and Kill 'em all. Im sure you can get a sound out it that would work. Herbie is the word. By the way Peter your amps are great. I was the guy trying to find a Diezel in Seattle.
 
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