Is my setup stereo or technically dual mono?

[romanianreaper]

I use two Orange Super Crush 100 combos. For one amp, I have my effects going into the send and return. On the second amp, the 2nd "out" on my stereo reverb goes into the return jack of the 2nd amp.

Is this a stereo setup or technically just dual mono because my sound from Amp 1 is just going into the power section of Amp 2?

The reason I ask is that I'm trying to avoid any phase issues. It was my impression that I'm just running the same tone into another speaker basically. I thought if I was going into the input jack of the second amp, that would be stereo because I'm using both preamp and power sections on the amps and that could cause issues.

 

[RaceU4her]

It’s dual mono, this is why you need a mimiq pedal

 

[romanianreaper]

It’s dual mono, this is why you need a mimiq pedal

I knew ypu were going to say that. So what is that going to do that my sound isn't already doing? I have the sounds going thru my stereo pedals and getting the ping pong delays, etc. Why would I need el' Mimiq?

 

[RaceU4her]

I knew ypu were going to say that. So what is that going to do that my sound isn't already doing? I have the sounds going thru my stereo pedals and getting the ping pong delays, etc. Why would I need el' Mimiq?

heres what it does, this is two amps panned left and right as i id assume you have one combo on each side of the drums, the first part is with the mimiq off and what would be your mono signal, the second part with the mimiq on you can hear how it "mimiqs" one of the signals as if you were double tracking and you get a stereo spread.


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[TheGreatGreen]

Technically there is no difference between dual mono and stereo. Some people might tell you the distinction is that a stereo setup uses a single volume knob to control both channels, but I think that’s incidental.

If you are only using one preamp from one amp at a time into both amps, you’re not going to have phasing issues. Phasing issues pretty much only occur when one amp uses an even number of gain stages and the other uses an odd number of gain stages. Since it sounds like you’re only using one preamp at a time, you should be fine, considering both amps use the same power amp and therefore the same number of gain stages in the power amp.

Alternatively, if you do decide to run both your preamps at the same time, since you have two of the same amp, as long as you keep both amps on the same channel/mode at the same time, you’ll be fine.

 

[BeZo]

If you ABY into the front of both amps for a true stereo, you won't get any phasing issues because they are the same amp. Phasing issues are pretty "yes" or "no" with stereo rigs, and a phase switch on an ABY can fix it. With a Mimiq and a split signal into two amps, it sounds huge. I'm running a stereo rig like that.

 

[romanianreaper]

If you ABY into the front of both amps for a true stereo, you won't get any phasing issues because they are the same amp. Phasing issues are pretty "yes" or "no" with stereo rigs, and a phase switch on an ABY can fix it. With a Mimiq and a split signal into two amps, it sounds huge. I'm running a stereo rig like that.

So a question for you and RaceU4her. If you guys are using stereo effects, how do you get that stereo with those effects? Only one amp can have the send and return so was curious how you get the second stereo signal to the amp?

 

[BeZo]

So a question for you and RaceU4her. If you guys are using stereo effects, how do you get that stereo with those effects? Only one amp can have the send and return so was curious how you get the second stereo signal to the amp?

I send both amps back to my Fractal FX8 that is setup true stereo. That way each side gets its own effects. You can do this with some delay and reverb pedals that have stereo inputs. Just run both sends to a pedal and both outs back. The only issue you might have there is ground loops, which you can fix with cables or something with a ground lift.