Is this EG 3/4

[Flump]

So in another thread it was mentioned that Matt Bellamy was now using the M4 and was using EG3/4 as his higher gain module. I don't know if he really ditched his diezel for it completely or whatever, but I was wondering if you guys think these are the EG 3/4 at work. If so...I think I might just pick one up.

Opening riff and first verse here:

Skip to 6:20 in this one. There's a lighter riff, then it sounds like he switches to a heavier tone.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

as far as I have been told by his tech. He still has the Diezel and Marshall in the rig along with the M4. So your guess is as good as mine. I do know that he told us that the 3/4 was really close to his Diezel and than when they were done with the tour he would be interested in working on it!

 

[Flump]

as far as I have been told by his tech. He still has the Diezel and Marshall in the rig along with the M4. So your guess is as good as mine. I do know that he told us that the 3/4 was really close to his Diezel and than when they were done with the tour he would be interested in working on it!

Yea I didn't know if he ditched the Diezel, although since these examples were before the American tour with U2 its possible that his rig was different between then and what he is using in America. I'm starting to mesh with my SL2x a lot more, but I think I'd love a module to complitment it that had a real low mid emphasis, but still had that little bit of extra hair on top that Diezels seem to get. I think the tone he is using compliments both Dom and Chris well to fill out the whole spectrum in this 3 piece (1 guitar) band. I will be doing the same soon.

Either way I guess my real question is could the EG3/4 (stock or slightly modified) get these tones?

 

[richedie]

I am not much of a Muse fan but he does get some good tones.

I think the SL2X gets the award for hair on top....but the stock SL2 seems to have more of the low mid push.

I bet an EG34X would have the low mid push with the hair on top giving an even more Diezel tone. To me, the EG3/4 is perfect so I don't touch it.....sounds huge for rhyth mand lead. My go-to module. Cuts in a band mix WAY better than the MHG ever did. I thought about buying a second EG3/4 to have the 'X' mod done to it but am afraid it will still sound too close to the original.

 

[aeroic]

I am not much of a Muse fan but he does get some good tones.

I think the SL2X gets the award for hair on top....but the stock SL2 seems to have more of the low mid push.

I bet an EG34X would have the low mid push with the hair on top giving an even more Diezel tone. To me, the EG3/4 is perfect so I don't touch it.....sounds huge for rhyth mand lead. My go-to module. Cuts in a band mix WAY better than the MHG ever did. I thought about buying a second EG3/4 to have the 'X' mod done to it but am afraid it will still sound too close to the original.

Well richidie... The X mod on the EG3/4 is the cat's meow. I have it on my EG3/4...and it's definitely different than the stock EG3/4. I personally love the X mod...with the 100pF cap on the tube board. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite modules. Give me a DLX or XMAN, with a EG3/4X and a EG5...and I'm in tonal heaven. That's probably gonna be a 1-2 punch in my Mod100 when I get it back from Egnater. That with either the VX, BMAN, DLX, or Twin...depending on what type of mood I'm in!

Eric

 

[Perttu]

The X mod on the EG3/4

Could you explain in more detail this mod? Even some little info would be appreciated.

 

[aeroic]

The X mod on the EG3/4

Could you explain in more detail this mod? Even some little info would be appreciated.

Same mod that Jeff does on the SL2 to make a SL2 an SL2X, but done on a EG3/4. The only other addition is changing the bright cap on the tube board to 100pF instead of 1000pF.

So...adds more upper mid bite... and brightens the top end. If you want "dark" EG3/4" I just roll off my tone knob on the guitar.

Eric

 

[Flump]

I am not much of a Muse fan but he does get some good tones.

I think the SL2X gets the award for hair on top....but the stock SL2 seems to have more of the low mid push.

I bet an EG34X would have the low mid push with the hair on top giving an even more Diezel tone. To me, the EG3/4 is perfect so I don't touch it.....sounds huge for rhyth mand lead. My go-to module. Cuts in a band mix WAY better than the MHG ever did. I thought about buying a second EG3/4 to have the 'X' mod done to it but am afraid it will still sound too close to the original.

Well richidie... The X mod on the EG3/4 is the cat's meow. I have it on my EG3/4...and it's definitely different than the stock EG3/4. I personally love the X mod...with the 100pF cap on the tube board. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite modules. Give me a DLX or XMAN, with a EG3/4X and a EG5...and I'm in tonal heaven. That's probably gonna be a 1-2 punch in my Mod100 when I get it back from Egnater. That with either the VX, BMAN, DLX, or Twin...depending on what type of mood I'm in!

Eric

Hmm, well i think i may just have to ask Jeff if he can make me an EG3/4x. This may be exactly the tone I'm looking for.

 

[aeroic]

I am not much of a Muse fan but he does get some good tones.

I think the SL2X gets the award for hair on top....but the stock SL2 seems to have more of the low mid push.

I bet an EG34X would have the low mid push with the hair on top giving an even more Diezel tone. To me, the EG3/4 is perfect so I don't touch it.....sounds huge for rhyth mand lead. My go-to module. Cuts in a band mix WAY better than the MHG ever did. I thought about buying a second EG3/4 to have the 'X' mod done to it but am afraid it will still sound too close to the original.

Well richidie... The X mod on the EG3/4 is the cat's meow. I have it on my EG3/4...and it's definitely different than the stock EG3/4. I personally love the X mod...with the 100pF cap on the tube board. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite modules. Give me a DLX or XMAN, with a EG3/4X and a EG5...and I'm in tonal heaven. That's probably gonna be a 1-2 punch in my Mod100 when I get it back from Egnater. That with either the VX, BMAN, DLX, or Twin...depending on what type of mood I'm in!

Eric

Hmm, well i think i may just have to ask Jeff if he can make me an EG3/4x. This may be exactly the tone I'm looking for.

Wouldn't see why he wouldn't do it.

Eric

 

[Flump]

I am not much of a Muse fan but he does get some good tones.

I think the SL2X gets the award for hair on top....but the stock SL2 seems to have more of the low mid push.

I bet an EG34X would have the low mid push with the hair on top giving an even more Diezel tone. To me, the EG3/4 is perfect so I don't touch it.....sounds huge for rhyth mand lead. My go-to module. Cuts in a band mix WAY better than the MHG ever did. I thought about buying a second EG3/4 to have the 'X' mod done to it but am afraid it will still sound too close to the original.

Well richidie... The X mod on the EG3/4 is the cat's meow. I have it on my EG3/4...and it's definitely different than the stock EG3/4. I personally love the X mod...with the 100pF cap on the tube board. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite modules. Give me a DLX or XMAN, with a EG3/4X and a EG5...and I'm in tonal heaven. That's probably gonna be a 1-2 punch in my Mod100 when I get it back from Egnater. That with either the VX, BMAN, DLX, or Twin...depending on what type of mood I'm in!

Eric

Hmm, well i think i may just have to ask Jeff if he can make me an EG3/4x. This may be exactly the tone I'm looking for.

Wouldn't see why he wouldn't do it.

Eric

What difference does the 100/1000pf cap on the tube board make to the sound? Also, that mod is in addition to the "x" mod done to the module correct?

 

[aeroic]

I am not much of a Muse fan but he does get some good tones.

I think the SL2X gets the award for hair on top....but the stock SL2 seems to have more of the low mid push.

I bet an EG34X would have the low mid push with the hair on top giving an even more Diezel tone. To me, the EG3/4 is perfect so I don't touch it.....sounds huge for rhyth mand lead. My go-to module. Cuts in a band mix WAY better than the MHG ever did. I thought about buying a second EG3/4 to have the 'X' mod done to it but am afraid it will still sound too close to the original.

Well richidie... The X mod on the EG3/4 is the cat's meow. I have it on my EG3/4...and it's definitely different than the stock EG3/4. I personally love the X mod...with the 100pF cap on the tube board. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite modules. Give me a DLX or XMAN, with a EG3/4X and a EG5...and I'm in tonal heaven. That's probably gonna be a 1-2 punch in my Mod100 when I get it back from Egnater. That with either the VX, BMAN, DLX, or Twin...depending on what type of mood I'm in!

Eric

Hmm, well i think i may just have to ask Jeff if he can make me an EG3/4x. This may be exactly the tone I'm looking for.

Wouldn't see why he wouldn't do it.

Eric

What difference does the 100/1000pf cap on the tube board make to the sound? Also, that mod is in addition to the "x" mod done to the module correct?

The 1000 -> 100 pf cap change is the treble roll off capacitor. The lower the cap...the less it rolls off. Yes...the 1000->100 pf change is in addition to the X mod.

Eric

 

[richedie]

Good to hear Eric. I will keep that in mind for a future purchase. Way down the road though! I am content with my EG5, SL2X, EG3/4, and BMann for now. I didn't like the Xman but then again I prefer the BMan fro clean and some JTM45 type crunch tones...I prefer the original...althought I had part of the mod done...just not the upper mids thing because I use it for clean and Jeff didn't recommend it.

Keep in mind, I do not like the EG5 at all. It is my least liked module, just my own taste! I know your tastes and mine differ a lot since you prefer the X, I seem to lean toward stock. Even with the SL2, I am thinking of going back stock but retaining the low end tightness. I can't get my SL2X to sound like the SL2. Surpised you can get the EG3/4X to sound like the stock 3/4.


I think it is the upper mid presence that bothers me, I find it a touch harsh to MY ears. I am just all about thick, syrupy, warm tones....but I like variety!

I WILL be trying the EG3/4X down the road bro after I get an SL!

So Eric, I just got back form spending an hour soloing with the SL2X and then the EG3/4. I think there is a bite I love about the SL2X when playing solos now. I might be getting into this one. However, I don't I want every module having that, so two EG3/4s may be in order.

I am not much of a Muse fan but he does get some good tones.

I think the SL2X gets the award for hair on top....but the stock SL2 seems to have more of the low mid push.

I bet an EG34X would have the low mid push with the hair on top giving an even more Diezel tone. To me, the EG3/4 is perfect so I don't touch it.....sounds huge for rhyth mand lead. My go-to module. Cuts in a band mix WAY better than the MHG ever did. I thought about buying a second EG3/4 to have the 'X' mod done to it but am afraid it will still sound too close to the original.

Well richidie... The X mod on the EG3/4 is the cat's meow. I have it on my EG3/4...and it's definitely different than the stock EG3/4. I personally love the X mod...with the 100pF cap on the tube board. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite modules. Give me a DLX or XMAN, with a EG3/4X and a EG5...and I'm in tonal heaven. That's probably gonna be a 1-2 punch in my Mod100 when I get it back from Egnater. That with either the VX, BMAN, DLX, or Twin...depending on what type of mood I'm in!

Eric

 

[MarcoR]

Either way I guess my real question is could the EG3/4 (stock or slightly modified) get these tones?

I’m a huge Muse fan and the EG3/4 is my favorite high gain module! I could definitely make the 3/4 work for a Muse tone but for what ever reason (maybe my combination of guitar and speakers) I would probably go to the Erect first for a more accurate coping of Matt's sound.

 

[richedie]

Either way I guess my real question is could the EG3/4 (stock or slightly modified) get these tones?

I’m a huge Muse fan and the EG3/4 is my favorite high gain module! I could definitely make the 3/4 work for a Muse tone but for what ever reason (maybe my combination of guitar and speakers) I would probably go to the Erect first for a more accurate coping of Matt's sound.

You might prefer the EG3/4X?

Eric, can you really get the EG3/4 sounding like the stock version that easily?

 

[aeroic]

Either way I guess my real question is could the EG3/4 (stock or slightly modified) get these tones?

I’m a huge Muse fan and the EG3/4 is my favorite high gain module! I could definitely make the 3/4 work for a Muse tone but for what ever reason (maybe my combination of guitar and speakers) I would probably go to the Erect first for a more accurate coping of Matt's sound.

Personally I don't think the E-rect is gonna be a good display of Matt Bellamy's tone. The stock EG3/4 is really close, and the "X" modded w/ the 100pF bright cap is even closer. My EG3/4 is modded like that..and holy hell, it bring's the Diezel type thunder. Becoming one of my favorite modules for sure. Still smooth, warm like a EG3/4, but adds some upper mids that I like...and such. Roll the treble to about 9-10 oclock... or roll off your guitar tone...and you get really close to a EG3/4 stock. Definitely can get some really cool "Joe Bonamassa" type lead tones too.

Eric

 

[RockStarNick]

Ah yes the EG3/4x. Another great hack mod invented by Nick Pierro...

 

[richedie]

That is good to hear Eric. I have a 500pF bright cap in the tube board and that is staying. However, it might be time to have the rest of the EG3/4 done if it really retains warmth, smoothness and thickness. I have a rack EQ/Compressor for adjusting anything I need for leads as well. Funny how some guys swear by the stock EG3/4 for gigging though. I know Muudrock's tones are great. Wish I could afford a second EG3/4 so I could have the best of both worlds. Diezels can be a touch stiff so that worries me. The stock EG3/4 is very juicy and syrupy.

One thing I like about the stock EG3/4 is that is does a nice Bogner impression.

For me, one of the best all around modules was the stock SL2, I need to get the SL2X out with the band to see how that compares.

 

[richedie]

Hi Eric, does the EG3/4X retain the ability to give thick lead tones that really sing and can sound warm?

Also, does it still retain some of its Bogner flavor? I hear some definite Bogner in the stock EG3/4 and my only real Diezel interest is the Herbert although I haven't tried too many.

I tend to go for more old school tones, not so much nu metal or modern rock. I like thicker, Marshally traditional tones so i think that is why i like the thicker tones, etc.